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TikTok videos leave teens thinking they have rare mental disorders (2021)

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Post by shever73 »

DonHopkins wrote: post #475
kkielhofner wrote: post #379

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You missed the sarcasm/jest on my first examples. I should have tagged them or been clearer. On the later the separation is: “I’m depressed” = Sad or a variation of it. “I have depression” = Diagnosis of a disorder

I've always wondered what it means that Germans say "I have hunger" instead of "I'm hungry". Maybe they think hunger is a disorder to be cured by prescribing food, instead of a feeling to be satisfied by eating. ;)

French is the same: j’ai faim, and Italian is too: ho fame. Both mean “I have hunger”. I wonder if English is in the minority of languages that use “I am” instead of “I have”? Interestingly, German doesn’t use the same construction for thirst. Ich bin durstig.

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Post by luckylion »

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I can credibly claim stimulant treatment for adhd saved my life so I'm not at all skeptical of its value in this context. But doesn't everyone respond extremely well to stimulants? They're some of the most common recreational drugs and neurotypical people seek them out for performance enhancement on cognitive tasks.

> doesn't everyone respond extremely well to stimulants? Not really - despite their popularity (as you say, heavily sought after), studies have shown that there really isn't a significant cognitive boost for neurotypical folks that take these stimulants[1]. While they have a significant effect for those with ADHD because their brain is not providing the chemicals properly, and these drugs enable that. They aren't boo…

Is it fair to say that stimulants having a significant impact is an indicator for having ADHD? If it wasn't basically impossible to see a psychiatrist where I live, I'd try to get tested, because Armodafinil has completely changed my life.

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Post by claudiawerner »

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In general I support that attitude, as someone who faced worse treatment for who I at home than at school, I wish I had a teacher or two to stick up for me.

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Post by thih9 »

chaoticmass wrote: post #495

I don't see it mentioned very often, but the whole "record yourself doing this funny dance" aspect of TikTok is, I think, a huge portion of why this is happening and is what makes it more powerful than other forms of social media. Getting people used to imitating what they see on the app could also be programming their minds to consciously/subconsciously imitate other things they see on there as well.

Isn’t the “record yourself” aspect relatively irrelevant? The majority of users don’t record themselves dancing (or even don’t create content on a regular basis).

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Post by stephenhuey »

jnovek wrote: post #457
wincy wrote: post #351

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It made us feel so insulted and betrayed that when my wife would cry in the NICU for any reason the nurses would tattle on her and she’d get a call from the pill pushers trying to prescribe her psych meds. It’s like look, my kid has literally been in the NICU for 6 months now (it ended up being 9 months total) and you’re strongly pressuring us to get her a tracheostomy (let’s not use medical euphemism here though, th…

I’m sorry for this entire experience that you’ve had. It sounds like a waking nightmare. I’m curious, did any doctor bring up therapy? I have major depressive disorder and I take antidepressants to help manage it. There was a landmark study a few years ago indicating that, while SSRIs/SNRIs are beneficial for people like me, they are no more effective than the placebo for people experiencing transient depression. The…

Crying when sad has been helpful for a very long time. I’m not saying therapy is never helpful, but as a parent I’m also annoyed by the medical folks in wincy’s story for pushing pills when they faced a tougher situation than any I have ever experienced and crying was certainly a very normal response. And venting to friends and receiving hugs probably helped even though the expected ache might remain while the baby was struggling. There are too many pills in the USA where people need a lot more compassionate friends and acknowledgment that feeling bad is actually not so bad.

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Post by noobker »

nkrisc wrote: post #310
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> you wear one mask with one group, another with a different group. Wouldnt say multiple identities though You're just establishing that for a given persona there is a spectrum from 'Mask' to 'Identity' and insisting that there is an arbitrary threshold. For a moment, embrace a worldview that there is no singular, core Identity -- in fact all personas are masks to some degree. An Identity may be a mask you're particu…

Obviously I don't know how other people feel, but even when I have to project different "identities" in different social situations, I'm still the same person within and just tailoring the output to be appropriate to the settings. I act differently when I'm playing with my son, when I'm at work, when I'm with my wife, etc... But I'm always the same person in all those situations with the same thoughts, the same desir…

> But I'm always the same person in all those situations with the same thoughts, the same desires

I think that's debatable, and further, a lot of that coherence is a personal/cultural choice and not something inherent to consciousness. At a minimum, you might admit the existence of biases like anchoring -- maybe you'll more heavily weight your child's desires while playing with them versus when your in the middle of work a day later (maybe vice versa!) -- but such things might be a hint of how these other perspectives work.

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Post by Banana699 »

ModernMech wrote: post #333
qzx_pierri wrote: post #288

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Men commit suicide 3.8x more than women[1] due to cavalier attitudes such as yours about the mental struggles men face. I'm not saying you're a "part of the problem", I'm just saying you could really benefit from admitting to yourself that yes, men do cry. Yes, men do feel the same emotions as women. Yes, men do have to hold it in for fear of being labeled a "pussy" or be seen as "crying like a little bitch". 1: http…

This is a little misleading. Men attempt suicide with more reliably lethal methods like firearms, whereas women attempt suicide using more unreliably lethal methods like overdosing on medication [1]. In fact, according to your link, women attempt suicide at a rate of 1.8x that of men [2]. [1]: https://www.verywellmind.com/gender-differences-in-suicide-m... [2]: https://www.datocms-assets.com/12810/1649682186-14296_af…

>Men attempt suicide with more reliably lethal methods like firearms

And succeed ~4x times as much. In other words, GP is correct and you just needed to scratch an itch to nitpick.

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Post by alephxyz »

faeriechangling wrote: post #139

I've done a lot of thinking about this issue, and there's two topics I notice. First, disability has become a status symbol in certain circles. Second, the huge rise in self-diagnosed disability. On the latter point, these kids are acting out these disabilities with such sincerity and 24/7 consistency that they effectively are disabled for all practical purposes, it's just that the diagnosis might be different than t…

Teens trying to feel special in a world where they're constantly exposed to people better or more exceptional than they are.

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Post by diordiderot »

purpleflame1257 wrote: post #277
dqpb wrote: post #176

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If that "delusion" were really so maladaptive it would have been outcompeted by now.

Eh time hasn't stopped yet and there's a lot more 'competing' to be done

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BeFlatXIII wrote: post #232
mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #207

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Source: I've been diagnosed with severe ADHD on 4 occasions(mostly retests for due diligence reasons after switching psychiatrist) Generally by having a full workup with a psychiatrist. They will do various interviews. Possibly might have to interview parents and teachers in pediatric cases or in adult cases where ADHD was not diagnosed in childhood(childhood onset is a diagnostic requirement for adult ADHD). In more…

> childhood onset is a diagnostic requirement for adult ADHD What would be the diagnosis for adult-onset ADHD symptoms without a childhood history of those symptoms?

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