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Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds

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Re: Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds

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> “People need to know they should cook more and prepare their own food from scratch. I know. We say we don’t have time but it really doesn’t take that much time,” Suemoto said. This is bullshit in a very important way: you have to know how to cook. Bring back home economics classes.

I think that required housewives. We're missing a full day's domestic labour.

Re: Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds

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> “People need to know they should cook more and prepare their own food from scratch. I know. We say we don’t have time but it really doesn’t take that much time,” Suemoto said. This is bullshit in a very important way: you have to know how to cook. Bring back home economics classes.

This. I'm one of the fortunate ones who learned to cook from my mother. Teaching me to cook is truly one of the greatest favors she did for me, bar none. This is not only because cooking is an essential part of eating well, but also because it's such a goddamn joy (if you're not following a recipe).

Re: Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds

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> “People need to know they should cook more and prepare their own food from scratch. I know. We say we don’t have time but it really doesn’t take that much time,” Suemoto said. This is bullshit in a very important way: you have to know how to cook. Bring back home economics classes.

I think that required housewives. We're missing a full day's domestic labour.

Nah. I work long hours and still find time to cook. Dinner takes about 15 mins to prepare, on average. I think the issue has more to do with people not knowing how to cook things that are both simple and nutritious.

I really feel for people who are trying to learn; every beginner's cookbook is full of things that require specific ingredients, complicated prep work, or a shit-ton of chopping.

I've toyed around with the idea of writing a cookbook of my own, but _that_ is something I truly do not have time for. Ah well :/

Re: Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds

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As a layman non-scientist, I wonder why we see so many relatively low-value observational studies in diet/nutrition, often with results that get contradicted or fail to replicate a few years later.

What would prevent us from doing a study like this: take 1000 diverse subjects, assign each of them a lab assistant, and for 2+ years, diligently track everything they eat, their exercise, sleep, etc. You could pay each participant and staff $100k/each, and the cost would be on the order of $400MM.

May not be epistemologically perfect given that people change their behavior when observed, but still superior to plenty of the stuff getting published now, and likely the knowledge gained for humankind would be worth many billions.

Re: Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds

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I'd like to hear more about the study design / quality of the science.

How are they correcting for correlation between the ability to afford the more money-expensive or more time-expensive ends of rich people with experts that cook for them, and health nuts (or suffers of seriously annoying allergies) that cook for themselves even though it's more time expensive?

Re: Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds

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> “People need to know they should cook more and prepare their own food from scratch. I know. We say we don’t have time but it really doesn’t take that much time,” Suemoto said. This is bullshit in a very important way: you have to know how to cook. Bring back home economics classes.

I think that required housewives. We're missing a full day's domestic labour.

yeah lets gender cooking now too in the effort to...?

Re: Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds

#18

> “People need to know they should cook more and prepare their own food from scratch. I know. We say we don’t have time but it really doesn’t take that much time,” Suemoto said. This is bullshit in a very important way: you have to know how to cook. Bring back home economics classes.

And tbh, it really does take time to prepare a good meal, including washing dishes and all that. For those of us living alone it takes a good chunk of our free time after work.

Re: Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds

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> “People need to know they should cook more and prepare their own food from scratch. I know. We say we don’t have time but it really doesn’t take that much time,” Suemoto said. This is bullshit in a very important way: you have to know how to cook. Bring back home economics classes.

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Re: Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds

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I wish I knew what was ultraprocessed. > "Ultraprocessed foods are defined as "industrial formulations of food substances (oils, fats, sugars, starch, and protein isolates) that contain little or no whole foods and typically include flavorings, colorings, emulsifiers, and other cosmetic additives," according to the study. But if I have a package that says it is whole grain or whatever, how do I know if it is or isn't…

The sorry state is that a chain is not stronger than the weakest link. And a food is not healthier than the worst ingredient/compound. A "good" nutrient does not make up for the bad/ultra processed additives.

Stay off the granola bar with high fructose corn syrup.

It is more important to avoid the bad anti-nutrients than to eat a particular food for a certain "miracle" nutrient.

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