Tech Compensation in Europe

Post by shmatt » Mon, Aug 01, 2022, 4:56 PM UTC

mmmpop wrote: post #43

shmatt wrote: post #34

This is why I dislike the fight against location based pay in the U.S. People are heated about how they add the same value whether in SF or Kentucky, but forget there are people even more valuable than them getting paid significantly less. If you are fighting against location based pay, you should be asking your employer to pay all employees on similar teams worldwide the same

> there are people even more valuable than them getting paid significantly less. Is this some reference to how SWEs are overpaid on the whole? OR something else..?

Post by dijit » Mon, Aug 01, 2022, 5:00 PM UTC

mbg721 wrote: post #101

dijit wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with our understanding of the term is that it's used by people who mean socialism to be communism, and have conflated them. (perhaps unintentionally). Even in Marxist theory, which is the point of reference to communism, Karl Marx States: ‘socialism is the first stage of the worldwide transition to communism’ Ergo it is not communism in of itself. I'll leave this little prose from the bottom of the dictio…

"True Communism" has always been the promise of heaven-on-earth without a God. It never happens, of course--any power vacuum is immediately filled by greedy people with no scruples. At least in a society with a God, there's something for the power-brokers to be afraid of.

Post by Olphs » Mon, Aug 01, 2022, 5:07 PM UTC

dijit wrote: post #17

bandris wrote: post #5

Tax returns should be public. Like in Norway. That would sort out all kinds of "payment gap" issues as well.

Tax returns are public in Sweden too. I would guess it's the same in Denmark (even if they're not quite as socialist); Perhaps Finland. But the majority of tech in Europe is: Dublin, Berlin and Amsterdam. AFAIK none of those have host countries which publicly disclose tax information;

Post by franciscop » Mon, Aug 01, 2022, 5:08 PM UTC

Ueland wrote: post #70

schnitzelstoat wrote: post #12

It'll be interesting when they add Southern Europe. I've seen adverts for experienced developers that pay €35k. And life isn't that much cheaper in the cities here.

That sounds ...very low, right? Given that it will be very easy to get twice that(and more) in northern Europe.

Post by RestlessMind » Mon, Aug 01, 2022, 5:10 PM UTC

angarg12 wrote: post #65

gregdoesit wrote: post #42

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Hi Gergely, thanks for bringing salary transparency to the EU! Some of those numbers make me consider moving back ;) Since this is early stage here is something for your consideration: so far I'm not very keen on how many of these websites account for equity/RSU in the salary information. For example, during my first 4 years at FAANG, my salary increased 50% due to stock appreciation alone. But the I faced a cliff wh…