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TikTok videos leave teens thinking they have rare mental disorders (2021)

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Men cry in the office too, but they're better at hiding it because the social expectations are different. A few times during crunches I've heard men sobbing in the restroom instead of at their desk. Men get told to 'man up', so they bottle it up or hide it.

counterpoint: no. i been in some pretty stressful environments and never reacted like that. same for most guys i know. maybe it's different where you are but i never seen it even in private like that or with close friends.

I don't know if "They're better at hiding it" is sufficiently negated by responding with "I've never seen it."

Also crying isn't the only form of emotional breakdown. It can also get sublimated into rage which manifests as screaming at subordinates, punching walls, road rage incidents, and domestic violence.

And it also sublimates into depression, which can manifest as substance abuse disorders and self-harm.

I think the OP claim that women are incapable of handling the same workplace pressures as men are is eliding a lot of information.

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I can credibly claim stimulant treatment for adhd saved my life so I'm not at all skeptical of its value in this context. But doesn't everyone respond extremely well to stimulants? They're some of the most common recreational drugs and neurotypical people seek them out for performance enhancement on cognitive tasks.

> doesn't everyone respond extremely well to stimulants? Not really - despite their popularity (as you say, heavily sought after), studies have shown that there really isn't a significant cognitive boost for neurotypical folks that take these stimulants[1]. While they have a significant effect for those with ADHD because their brain is not providing the chemicals properly, and these drugs enable that. They aren't boo…

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I think you may have misread the comment you replied to. The claim being made, is that in times past, the bar for being diagnosed with something like OCD was much lower than today, causing people to consider mundane things as symptoms.

“The bar also got a lot lower than back then.” It appears GP is saying the bar for being diagnosed with a mental illness is lower today (“got a lot lower”). I am pushing back, at least where OCD is concerned.

I'm not talking about official diagnosis by trained professionals, i'm talking about tiktok and self diagnosis.

Kids today think they have OCD because they jump over the gaps in tiles, and promote that on social networks. Other kids claim they have it too, because they jump over the gaps too. And in the end... social vmedia (tiktok videos) leave teens thinking they have rare mental disorders (like 'real' OCD)... as the title of this post says.

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For all of human history across every culture, parents would do what they could to keep their kids away from “bad influences”. You move to certain areas, go to certain places, are members of certain organizations etc. which serve to socialize your kids with kids from families that have shared values. You don’t talk to strangers. With the internet and especially media like TikTok parents are exposing their kids to unt…

I've joked that Tik Tok is a Chinese psyop meant to weaken the next generation of the west (it's banned in China itself), but it looks less like a joke all the time.

> it's banned in China itself My understanding is that TikTok is the international version of Douyin.

There maybe be some technical reasons for this.

But feeding into the psyops narrative, it's good practice to separate your intelligence gathering into domestic and international. Ex. CIA and FBI

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>everything abnormal is celebrated as cultural progress That is a very curious statement.

rite! normalize everything abnormal and awful, celebrate it as cultural progress. normalize letting the algorithms and bad actors manipulate and radicalize the youth. yup this is progress

What, pray tell, do you think is "abnormal and awful"?

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It feels as though our society has collectively forgotten that mental illness can be socially transmissible. I remember in 00s there seemed to be mainstream acknowledgement and concern that anorexia and distorted perception of one's body can be socially transmissible, ripping through teen social cliches particularly, and could be spread through the internet by "pro-ana" websites and chat groups. I don't hear much abo…

Fashion has moved on, so the anorexic has been largely replaced with bikini fitness. This is not a joke. You will also find that among bikini fitness athletes, you will find a lot who have been previously anorexic.

https://nutrition.org/eating-disorders-are-on-the-rise/

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It feels as though our society has collectively forgotten that mental illness can be socially transmissible. I remember in 00s there seemed to be mainstream acknowledgement and concern that anorexia and distorted perception of one's body can be socially transmissible, ripping through teen social cliches particularly, and could be spread through the internet by "pro-ana" websites and chat groups. I don't hear much abo…

What happened is that as we have understood eating disorders better focus on anorexia specifically has been replaced by a much broader class of eating disorders.

In addition what people have learnt is that focusing on illness prevention isn’t the best approach. Focusing instead on more positive alternatives works better. Hence the rise of the body positivity movement.

Finally, anorexia and other eating disorders are much better known so parents and children receive information and education about them through normal channels. Their doctors and school teachers. So discussing it through news media isn’t as important.

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The language has shifted as well. You’re not sad, you’re depressed. You don’t worry, you have anxiety. Depression and anxiety are medical diagnoses. The other are normal emotions everyone can, should, and does experience. If you don’t ever worry or get sad about anything there’s probably something else wrong with you. In terms of diagnoses, the DSM-4 included a “bereavement exclusion” from the depression diagnostic c…

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It feels as though our society has collectively forgotten that mental illness can be socially transmissible. I remember in 00s there seemed to be mainstream acknowledgement and concern that anorexia and distorted perception of one's body can be socially transmissible, ripping through teen social cliches particularly, and could be spread through the internet by "pro-ana" websites and chat groups. I don't hear much abo…

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A few people have drawn parallels to religion in this thread, but I'm not sure if you're trying to use the example of religion to refute the idea of socially transmissible mental illness, or to prove it. To me, it seems to prove it. It's perhaps easiest to see in the more extreme and wacky manifestations, like "speaking in tongues", although it's hard to gauge how earnest those people are and how much is an "emperor'…

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