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Re: Tech Compensation in Europe

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I keep getting calls from recruiters offering 30k€ in North Spain, but they are hurting, as nowadays everybody is getting better deals thanks to remote work.

so I guess this is annual, not monthly? Or is there some other division of salary that I haven't thought of?

Yes, this is annual.

Re: Tech Compensation in Europe

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post #23
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tax returns are public in Sweden too. I would guess it's the same in Denmark (even if they're not quite as socialist); Perhaps Finland. But the majority of tech in Europe is: Dublin, Berlin and Amsterdam. AFAIK none of those have host countries which publicly disclose tax information;

Sweden and Denmark don’t differ in how much “socialist” they are. Also, they’re not socialist countries.

Swedens and Norways top political parties have ‘social’ in their name. Also, I would say socialism is more of a sliding scale based on ‘how big’ the role of government is. It depends on what level of the ‘social programs’ fall under the perview of the government vs. private industry.

I would say Sweden and Denmark are more ‘socialist leaning’ compared to other democratic republics of the world.

Re: Tech Compensation in Europe

#33

The worst bit about this is that in Europe, employers don't have to pay for insurance versus the US side yet we still find ways to dick over our European hires by having them come in very low. I've worked at places making 150k USD where the most knowledgeable people I worked with were making 90k GBP in Europe. We lost a lot of people during the great exodus of inflation at the beginning of the "Ukraine training exerc…

At least here in ireland, the legal mandated contribution to the public health system is called Employer's PRSI, and usually most big tech employers will pay for private health insurance also (albeit private health insurance is priced much more reasonably here, due to needing to compete with the public system with its capped patient costs).

Re: Tech Compensation in Europe

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This is why I dislike the fight against location based pay in the U.S.

People are heated about how they add the same value whether in SF or Kentucky, but forget there are people even more valuable than them getting paid significantly less.

If you are fighting against location based pay, you should be asking your employer to pay all employees on similar teams worldwide the same

Re: Tech Compensation in Europe

#35
post #7

Super nice to see this becoming public finally!! Great stuff, I'm excited to see the clarity and transparency this will bring to the table.

I can't believe that people working as Software Engineer in Berlin Area is getting paid 300k+ €.

This might be realistic for people working 100% for San Francisco companies

Re: Tech Compensation in Europe

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post #29
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sweden and Denmark don’t differ in how much “socialist” they are. Also, they’re not socialist countries.

Sweden & Denmark favour high taxes and social responsibility; I'm sure you are aware but in socialist countries, healthcare, education and economic support are all provided free to every citizen, regardless of how much they earn. Sweden & Denmark absolutely live that vision. People get confused because they've conflated socialism and communism, where communism is a means of controlling and distributing the means of p…

Most countries in Europe provide that don’t they? Also, Sweden has the number 8 highest income tax in Europe and has in fact very low taxes on investments (the ISK accounts). “Pretty bad healthcare system honestly”? That’s a big exaggeration… both public and private healthcare has worked great in my experience. Sounds like you have some kind of beef with Scandinavia.

Re: Tech Compensation in Europe

#37

The worst bit about this is that in Europe, employers don't have to pay for insurance versus the US side yet we still find ways to dick over our European hires by having them come in very low. I've worked at places making 150k USD where the most knowledgeable people I worked with were making 90k GBP in Europe. We lost a lot of people during the great exodus of inflation at the beginning of the "Ukraine training exerc…

Here's a list how much employers pay for insurance: https://blog.eurodev.com/social-security-tax-rates-employers... .

Is 45% employer tax for France correct? Ie employer pays €181k for an employee to earn €100k, who then pays 40% income tax and is left with €60k?

Re: Tech Compensation in Europe

#38

Weird to generalize this over "Europe", since you better live in very specific countries/cities in the UK, Switzerland, Ireland, Netherlands, Luxembourg or Germany, otherwise those salary ranges are completely meaningless to you/your employers, especially the Tier 3 wages. Better naming would be "Compensation across Europe's biggest tech hubs".

Does it support Ireland? I couldn't see figures for that country.

Unfort not

Re: Tech Compensation in Europe

#39
post #34

This is why I dislike the fight against location based pay in the U.S. People are heated about how they add the same value whether in SF or Kentucky, but forget there are people even more valuable than them getting paid significantly less. If you are fighting against location based pay, you should be asking your employer to pay all employees on similar teams worldwide the same

What do you tell your Kentucky-based employees at that point? "Look, 30 cents a week is our business model. You don't see Harbaglarb in Racetothebottomland complaining,"??

Re: Tech Compensation in Europe

#40
post #19

Just wanted to say thanks for putting this together. Looking forward too seeing the dataset grow.

I will take the chance to add our datasets as well (we are running tech job boards with mandatory salary brackets).

The data is based on what the companies advertise, and the data size is of around 2000 salaries for each country:

- Switzerland: https://swissdevjobs.ch/salaries/all/all

- Germany: https://germantechjobs.de/en/salaries/all/all

- UK: https://devitjobs.uk/salaries/all/all

- Romania: https://devjob.ro/en/salaries/all/all

Important to add that we don't catch the whole spectrum of the market (missing FAANG-like and some top international startups), so basically our 90 percentile will be probably an 80 percentile if you add those.

I think it's important to also have this perspective, because not everyone has the determination & luck to go through the whole interview process at FAANG-like companies.

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