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Put down devices, let your mind wander, study suggests

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Re: Put down devices, let your mind wander, study suggests

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Post by noisy_boy »

fastball wrote: post #100
silentsea90 wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It takes a fair bit to go from hearing about a game to being addicted to it. What game is it?

My money is on one of the classic HN-crowd time-sinks: KSP, Factorio, EVE Online, Stardew Valley, Rimworld, etc. edit: can't believe I almost forgot Universal Paperclips

I signed up for EVE online on a whim and got a notification email to the effect of "Captain, your mission awaits you!" when I was trying to get some digital housekeeping done and the immediate feeling I got was "hello no, I dont need more things to be sorted out - I am already exhausted!" and marked it as spam.

Re: Put down devices, let your mind wander, study suggests

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Post by xcambar »

liberia wrote: post #34
xcambar wrote: post #19

As I grew older, there are certain things I have learned to enjoy more, such as slowness, inaction, loneliness, boredom. Boredom is typically the most controversial, so the reason here is that boredom first allows for moments you want out of, but also there's more: It expands the range of comfort zone of emotions and sets the ground floor of your emotions low enough that you can actually welcome more experiences as r…

Well as a hacker, boredom is the enemy and we’re always at war with boredom. For a hacker, boredom is a form of death.

As a hacker, boredom is a powerful motivator and creator.

Re: Put down devices, let your mind wander, study suggests

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Post by xcambar »

bigDinosaur wrote: post #71
stevage wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My friends who are parents feel so guilty if they ever look at their phone while with kids. That message might have gotten through too strongly.

Why does that seem to be 'too strongly'? Just like how being very fit requires some level of guilt with eating cake, so too does avoiding overuse of smartphones.

Because there is a middleground.

Being fit or staying away from your phone doesn't require to run 20k a week or to remove the phone from your kids' perception of the world.

Re: Put down devices, let your mind wander, study suggests

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Post by gukov »

pj_mukh wrote: post #106
osamagirl69 wrote: post #26

There is some interesting discussion in the analysis portion of the paper that resonated deeply with me. >However, the fact that participants underestimated the potential task motivation during the thinking period may indicate that people avoid thinking not because it is aversive but because it is expected to be aversive. >Such an inaccurate expectation may lead people to unnecessarily avoid spending time thinking in…

What are other good mobile strategies? I need my phone to keep an eye on some work stuff + elderly parents on WhatsApp, but clearly parts of the phone are neurologically optimized to keep me distracted (and it works!) So what are other good ways to fight this?

Go to accessibility settings and make the display grayscale.

Re: Put down devices, let your mind wander, study suggests

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Post by askafriend »

quickthrower2 wrote: post #108
fastball wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My money is on one of the classic HN-crowd time-sinks: KSP, Factorio, EVE Online, Stardew Valley, Rimworld, etc. edit: can't believe I almost forgot Universal Paperclips

ROT13: fyvgure.vb

Wow....what a great game, was not expecting to get hooked. Sure enough, I did.

Re: Put down devices, let your mind wander, study suggests

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Post by codetrotter »

gukov wrote: post #114
pj_mukh wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are other good mobile strategies? I need my phone to keep an eye on some work stuff + elderly parents on WhatsApp, but clearly parts of the phone are neurologically optimized to keep me distracted (and it works!) So what are other good ways to fight this?

Go to accessibility settings and make the display grayscale.

Thank you. For anyone else on iOS you find this by going to Settings -> Accessibility -> Display & Text Size -> Color Filters -> On. The default color filter when turned on is grayscale.

Re: Put down devices, let your mind wander, study suggests

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Post by kar5pt »

Kaze404 wrote: post #90
ilaksh wrote: post #2

Don't most people think about stuff before they fall asleep? I know I do. Often it takes quite awhile to fall asleep for me and have plenty of time to do it.

Depends. I remember reading a while ago that the average time for a person to fall asleep is 15 minutes. I personally believe I fall asleep instantly, but maybe that’s just me not being conscious enough during those 15 minutes to remember them.

I envy you. It takes me an hour or more unless I've already stayed up way too late.

Re: Put down devices, let your mind wander, study suggests

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Post by exitb »

pj_mukh wrote: post #106
osamagirl69 wrote: post #26

There is some interesting discussion in the analysis portion of the paper that resonated deeply with me. >However, the fact that participants underestimated the potential task motivation during the thinking period may indicate that people avoid thinking not because it is aversive but because it is expected to be aversive. >Such an inaccurate expectation may lead people to unnecessarily avoid spending time thinking in…

What are other good mobile strategies? I need my phone to keep an eye on some work stuff + elderly parents on WhatsApp, but clearly parts of the phone are neurologically optimized to keep me distracted (and it works!) So what are other good ways to fight this?

Disable automatic suggestions in your web browser when you only just focused the address bar. The only suggestions that may appear, should be contextual to what you started to type.

Re: Put down devices, let your mind wander, study suggests

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Post by a123b456c »

liberia wrote: post #34
xcambar wrote: post #19

As I grew older, there are certain things I have learned to enjoy more, such as slowness, inaction, loneliness, boredom. Boredom is typically the most controversial, so the reason here is that boredom first allows for moments you want out of, but also there's more: It expands the range of comfort zone of emotions and sets the ground floor of your emotions low enough that you can actually welcome more experiences as r…

Well as a hacker, boredom is the enemy and we’re always at war with boredom. For a hacker, boredom is a form of death.

Motivation to explore/create motivation to avoid boredom.

"enemy" ... "at war with" ... "death" ... such metaphors.

Re: Put down devices, let your mind wander, study suggests

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Post by NovaVeles »

switchbak wrote: post #109
liberia wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well as a hacker, boredom is the enemy and we’re always at war with boredom. For a hacker, boredom is a form of death.

Well, some hackers are also Buddhists, which don't tend to view boredom like that.

And that is how we get Bodhi Linux. ;)
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