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Put down devices, let your mind wander, study suggests

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Re: Put down devices, let your mind wander, study suggests

#101

My anecdotal experience is this is good thing to do. But I am addicted to devices, especially HN, Reddit and a game I won't mention because I don't want to get you addicted to it too. I think you can get a lot of joy by letting your mind wander! It may not be productive (like an Eureka moment), but it can be fun, it can also remembering to do something you would have otherwise not thought about.

> ...I am addicted to ... HN, Reddit and a game I won't mention because I don't want to get you addicted to it too.

We're also addicted to HN and Reddit! This sounds like a game for us!

Re: Put down devices, let your mind wander, study suggests

#102
post #31

There's also the long-standing idea that people come up with great/interesting ideas while in the shower (so much that it's an internet meme), and that's attributed to the shower being one of the few places where you don't have media or electronics trying to capture your attention.

That phenomenon is very real in my personal case. Unfortunately the ideas go away by the time i get hold of pen and paper after the shower. Possible solutions to this are welcome.

> Unfortunately the ideas go away by the time i get hold of pen and paper after the shower.

I've been in this situation. For better or worse, I have a Google smart speaker outside of my shower. On more than one occasion, I have asked Google to remind me to do something the following day and have provided enough detail for me to recollect the thoughts I had in the shower.

Re: Put down devices, let your mind wander, study suggests

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post #84

My anecdotal experience is this is good thing to do. But I am addicted to devices, especially HN, Reddit and a game I won't mention because I don't want to get you addicted to it too. I think you can get a lot of joy by letting your mind wander! It may not be productive (like an Eureka moment), but it can be fun, it can also remembering to do something you would have otherwise not thought about.

Try me.

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Re: Put down devices, let your mind wander, study suggests

#104
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty sure Buddha warned against nihilism. The void may be tempting, but is ultimately empty, after all.

What does that have to do with anything? We're talking about Pascal's claim

Because you implied in your statement that having kids is due to a lack of reflection, rather than due to reflecting.

I'm pointing out a fork in the road in mindset.

Re: Put down devices, let your mind wander, study suggests

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post #99
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not being poor or in debt also helps quite a bit. Having a perspective and not being stuck in jobs that will never pay a house no matter what you do might also help. Having successful parents also helps, otherwise it's difficult to read all the subtle social cues that make a difference. Never felt as anxious and isolated as when hanging around with privileged art students. Subjectively society got a lot more focused…

> Never felt as anxious and isolated as when hanging around with privileged art students. I am picking up a broad brush but bear with me for the moment. It is likely that half -- if not more -- of those 'privileged art students' felt anxious and isolated in spite of their positive demeanor. If privilege alone was a solution for general well-being, we would not have as many rich and famous people struggling to keep it…

You are correct of course. My comment was kind of all over the place without any clear idea - I just wanted to illustrate that anxiety can also be triggered by the feeling - real or imagined - to not belong. Maybe mixing up class/privilege kind of misses the point as you said there are probably enough well off people full of anxiety. It was just a situation I vividly remembered and as such it's difficult to convey without context and maybe just unfair.

Re: Put down devices, let your mind wander, study suggests

#106

There is some interesting discussion in the analysis portion of the paper that resonated deeply with me. >However, the fact that participants underestimated the potential task motivation during the thinking period may indicate that people avoid thinking not because it is aversive but because it is expected to be aversive. >Such an inaccurate expectation may lead people to unnecessarily avoid spending time thinking in…

What are other good mobile strategies?

I need my phone to keep an eye on some work stuff + elderly parents on WhatsApp, but clearly parts of the phone are neurologically optimized to keep me distracted (and it works!)

So what are other good ways to fight this?

Re: Put down devices, let your mind wander, study suggests

#107
post #31

There's also the long-standing idea that people come up with great/interesting ideas while in the shower (so much that it's an internet meme), and that's attributed to the shower being one of the few places where you don't have media or electronics trying to capture your attention.

That phenomenon is very real in my personal case. Unfortunately the ideas go away by the time i get hold of pen and paper after the shower. Possible solutions to this are welcome.

I write my ideas on the bathroom walls with crayons. Those crayons are for kids to play with in the bath and can be easily erased.

Re: Put down devices, let your mind wander, study suggests

#108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It takes a fair bit to go from hearing about a game to being addicted to it. What game is it?

My money is on one of the classic HN-crowd time-sinks: KSP, Factorio, EVE Online, Stardew Valley, Rimworld, etc. edit: can't believe I almost forgot Universal Paperclips

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Re: Put down devices, let your mind wander, study suggests

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post #19

As I grew older, there are certain things I have learned to enjoy more, such as slowness, inaction, loneliness, boredom. Boredom is typically the most controversial, so the reason here is that boredom first allows for moments you want out of, but also there's more: It expands the range of comfort zone of emotions and sets the ground floor of your emotions low enough that you can actually welcome more experiences as r…

Well as a hacker, boredom is the enemy and we’re always at war with boredom. For a hacker, boredom is a form of death.

Well, some hackers are also Buddhists, which don't tend to view boredom like that.

Re: Put down devices, let your mind wander, study suggests

#110
post #2

Don't most people think about stuff before they fall asleep? I know I do. Often it takes quite awhile to fall asleep for me and have plenty of time to do it.

I fall asleep pretty much instantly. Isn't thinking about things distracting you from sleep?

I would love to be able to stop thinking just because I lay down or something.
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