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Tell HN: LinkedIn is automatically importing job postings into company profiles
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Re: Tell HN: LinkedIn is automatically importing job postings into company profiles
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Surely this kind of thing will eventually come back to haunt them? I doubt it. Network effects matter and nobody is switching from LinkedIn for fear of missing out. There is no other work-related social network like it. It's different with FB/Instagram that there isn't much at stake so people will just switch to test something and then stay. With LinkedIn, the "what if I miss a job opportunity?" factor means there'…
I see “network effects” cited so frequently as this impenetrable fortress, but… literally every site that now has “network effects” had to fight them to exist, so it seems kind of odd…
When LI started, it didn't have much competition so it was easier.
Network effects is not an impenetrable fortress. It just means your product has to have a really good reason for people to switch, and I dont see anyone in the work network space doing anything really better than LI. I wish someone was.
Re: Tell HN: LinkedIn is automatically importing job postings into company profiles
#53They seem hellbent on having a rotten reputation. I do not know a single person who likes it other than recruiters (who all tell me they're upset about people not replying to their out-of-the-blue messages). Every developer I know either simply dislikes the LinkedIn experience, or knows about the company's shitty behaviour and despises the company (to the point of deleting their profile or not signing up). Surely thi…
Linkedin succeeds because most companies suck at recruiting so much, that this bottom-feeder behaviour by recruiters and Linkedin actually gets people hired, much faster than they otherwise would be. Recruitment agencies and their cheesy, ignorant reach-outs are actually what gets the market going. This is because hiring managers at tech companies don't want to do the job themselves, even though they'd do a lot bette…
This is exactly the issue. As sucky as LinkedIn is, it actually did result in better results for me than average HR department at a given company. That should not be the case, but so very often it is.. therefore, LinkedIn remains one of the viable options.
I am relatively lucky, because I am now old enough to have friends, colleagues and some reputation so I do not need it ( amusingly, my profile was flagged for something recently and I have not looked back ), but I remember when I did and recruiters were the least painful way to get my foot in the doors
Re: Tell HN: LinkedIn is automatically importing job postings into company profiles
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Linkedin succeeds because most companies suck at recruiting so much, that this bottom-feeder behaviour by recruiters and Linkedin actually gets people hired, much faster than they otherwise would be. Recruitment agencies and their cheesy, ignorant reach-outs are actually what gets the market going. This is because hiring managers at tech companies don't want to do the job themselves, even though they'd do a lot bette…
This is exactly the issue. As sucky as LinkedIn is, it actually did result in better results for me than average HR department at a given company. That should not be the case, but so very often it is.. therefore, LinkedIn remains one of the viable options. I am relatively lucky, because I am now old enough to have friends, colleagues and some reputation so I do not need it ( amusingly, my profile was flagged for some…
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Re: Tell HN: LinkedIn is automatically importing job postings into company profiles
#55Just redirect people out of LinkedIn. My LinkedIn page says only "My real profile is on Github: URL".
Re: Tell HN: LinkedIn is automatically importing job postings into company profiles
#56Preface: I hate LinkedIn Do we know that in fact LinkedIn is scraping? Could it be that the LinkedIn data science team is erroneously matching company names with job titles that are added to its website? E.g., someone from YMCombinator posts a page to LinkedIn and puts the application link to angel.co. Then LinkedIn mistakenly sees YMCombinator as YCombinator and adds the logo (no scraping involved).
Whatever you think of LinkedIn’s or Microsoft’s ethical standards this would be so comical - and could piss off so many major LinkedIn large customers - that it warrants alternative hypotheses like yours.
Re: Tell HN: LinkedIn is automatically importing job postings into company profiles
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
I see “network effects” cited so frequently as this impenetrable fortress, but… literally every site that now has “network effects” had to fight them to exist, so it seems kind of odd…
When LI started, it didn't have much competition so it was easier. Network effects is not an impenetrable fortress. It just means your product has to have a really good reason for people to switch, and I dont see anyone in the work network space doing anything really better than LI. I wish someone was.
How about a video only (or video first) network - companies can promote but has to be videos. Tiktok meets LinkedIn (!)
Re: Tell HN: LinkedIn is automatically importing job postings into company profiles
#58Not only is there phishing opportunity, it's being actively exploited to much greater financial effect (check fraud and identity theft), and you don't even need to go to the lengths of creating a company profile or a website as anyone can create a job posting for any company (with rare exception) [1].
Here's a very real series of events I'm privy to:
- Bad guy gets a domain name confusingly similar to the target company (maybe tack on "inc" or "llc").
- Bad guy gets access to a LinkedIn account (doesn't matter who or if they're connected to the company; stands to reason that a hacked account with existing connections adds credibility) and updates the title to CEO of target company.
- Bad guy posts an "Easy Apply" ad for a remote job with target company.
- That job listing automatically appears on target company's LinkedIn page.
- Bad guy begins receiving contact info for the job and gets to work.
- Following a weak interview process conducted entirely over IM or email, the candidate is hired.
- New hire provides identity documentation at bad actor’s request.
- Bad actor sends new hire a check with instructions to buy equipment for their home work area from a specific vendor who is also the bad actor.
- New hire deposits check and bank makes funds available before the check clearance process actually completes.
- New hire buys a few thousand dollars’ of equipment from a vendor that doesn’t exist with money they don’t actually have.
- Check bounces and the jig is up.
By the time target company found out, LinkedIn has removed both the job ad and the profile that created it, but did not and would not reach out to the applicants to warn them of the scam nor provide those applicants to the target company (y'know, the company the applicants thought they were applying to; citing "privacy reasons").
While [1] says LinkedIn can do something to restrict who can post jobs on behalf of your company, it's wholly undocumented (and I suspect may not work well for companies relying on both internal and external sourcing). The only defensive measure I've identified is setting up a job alert for your company, specifically for Easy Apply and/or Remote positions as that seems to track with the scam.
[1] https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/you-can-post-...
Re: Tell HN: LinkedIn is automatically importing job postings into company profiles
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have the opposite experience. I don’t get any messages from recruiters after having set the appropriate preferences. And I use LinkedIn to connect to relevant people in my field.
My recruiter invites have been dropping at a exponential rate once I passed age 45. LinkedIn is apparently a fairly efficient platform for age discrimination.
One way to mitigate that somewhat is to never put your age online. I plan on being 39 for as long as possible.
Re: Tell HN: LinkedIn is automatically importing job postings into company profiles
#60They seem hellbent on having a rotten reputation. I do not know a single person who likes it other than recruiters (who all tell me they're upset about people not replying to their out-of-the-blue messages). Every developer I know either simply dislikes the LinkedIn experience, or knows about the company's shitty behaviour and despises the company (to the point of deleting their profile or not signing up). Surely thi…
Honestly, this feels like a natural reaction to the ruling that they couldn’t stop people from scraping their site.
They probably just decided, we may as well do it too.