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I Looked into 34 Top Real-World Blockchain Projects So You Don’t Have To

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Re: I Looked into 34 Top Real-World Blockchain Projects So You Don’t Have To

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Post by influxmoment »

testesttest wrote: post #55
tux3 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Storing the list is the easy part. I have a usb drive that can store the list. You want people to agree on which chain is the main chain, so that you can only add things to the list, and you can't go back or substitute it with another list without breaking proof of work. The purpose of bitcoin is to make people agree that a spent transaction is irrevocably spent.

Have you tried storing the list lately? I don't think you have a 10TB plus flash drive. https://etherscan.io/chartsync/chainarchive Crypto is more and more centralised because the hardware to run your own node is now thousands of dollars. That is without even getting into miners...It is kinda failing.

That's Ethereum. Largely was consider a bad ideas because it's too large to independently validate

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Post by a-dub »

cowtools wrote: post #21
a-dub wrote: post #5

i think handshake and gns are pretty cool.

I don't know about Handshake, but GNS isn't block-chain. As far as I understand, it's a distributed hash-table: https://www.gnunet.org/en/gns.html

handshake is at handshake.org

in my mind they're both decentralized and distributed peer to peer systems which aim to provide global public internet infrastructure (which is what i find to be the interesting part).

handshake has a cryptoconomy and gnunet is more a traditional peer to peer network.

handshake is probably the cooler of the two, if you ask me.

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Post by victorvosk »

rzwitserloot wrote: post #38

I keep saying this, but: Bitcoin is well over 10 years old by now. In 10 years, the internet was already clearly adding a ton of value all over the place. Bitcoin is not really a 'young technology' anymore, and the only thing it has enabled so far is risky, unregulated investment strategies, and an staggering amount of crime.

I agree except "an staggering amount of crime". This has been studied a lot and there is no clear evidence of more crime than normal occurring just because of bitcoin

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Post by testesttest »

influxmoment wrote: post #61
testesttest wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried storing the list lately? I don't think you have a 10TB plus flash drive. https://etherscan.io/chartsync/chainarchive Crypto is more and more centralised because the hardware to run your own node is now thousands of dollars. That is without even getting into miners...It is kinda failing.

That's Ethereum. Largely was consider a bad ideas because it's too large to independently validate

Name a main stream one that is easy? I run archive nodes for SOL, ETH, Polygon, others.

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Post by jacknews »

This would have been much more useful if the author had described what each project was intended to do, rather than just dump on it.

IMHO the use cases that make some sense for blockchain are identity, ownership certificates and providence, and trustless exchange/settlement between institutions. ie where you want ot be sure you got your money, even if your counterparty goes bust overnight, eg for forex settlement, or anywhere some kind of escrow is currently used.

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Post by RF_Savage »

m3kw9 wrote: post #57
chrisabrams wrote: post #48

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What country do you live in? Because I know plenty of folks in certain countries with massive inflation and projects such as bitcoin are their refuge from 100-1000% inflation a year. When you say “in 10 years” when did that 10 year time frame start and end? Are talking about the 1960s or the 1990s? Because most people I knew didn’t start using the internet regularly until the mid to late 90s or about 30 or so years a…

Could have had similar effect by holding any other currency that isn’t equally hyper inflating. Like the USD

Sadly many countries have currency controls that prevent that.

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Post by dfabulich »

Taek wrote: post #46
rzwitserloot wrote: post #38

I keep saying this, but: Bitcoin is well over 10 years old by now. In 10 years, the internet was already clearly adding a ton of value all over the place. Bitcoin is not really a 'young technology' anymore, and the only thing it has enabled so far is risky, unregulated investment strategies, and an staggering amount of crime.

When the Internet was 10 years old the year was 1987.

In 1987, Usenet and email were already pretty great. (And that was all before the web!)

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Post by api »

rvz wrote: post #47
api wrote: post #12

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We’re out hiring right now and it’s shocking how many people have a career filled totally with dodgy cryptocurrency nonsense. Loads of designers and developers have most of their experience in platforms that seem to have no utility beyond scams, gambling, and MLMs. There certainly is a massive amount of wasted talent here.

> There certainly is a massive amount of wasted talent here. Yeah, taking a career in developing surveillance capitalist products and building real world spyware to harvest our personal data only to run it on tons of planet incinerating data centres (which don't work) just to try push and target more spyware ads to auction and sell their personal info around, is surely improving the world and a great career to have i…

I didn’t say there wasn’t a lot of wasted talent elsewhere.

It’s really sad in general how much money there is in bullshit and how little there is in things like medical research and exploration.

The luxury of useful work is quite rare it seems.

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Post by HillRat »

hestefisk wrote: post #20

I’m surprised there’s no mention of R3/Corda. There’s a lot of good real-world application of blockchain in their portfolio, which us effectively a consortium of banks working together. Documentary trade finance is where blockchain finds decent uses.

I generally stayed away from the crypto folks at my old firm, but I did get tangentially involved in one project that remains the only reasonable blockchain use-case I’ve seen — a Corda dapp for untrusting and untrusted financial parties to independently negotiate multilateral financial instruments in a permissioned chain. Looks like the consortium involved is still operating it.

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Post by jonas21 »

rzwitserloot wrote: post #38

I keep saying this, but: Bitcoin is well over 10 years old by now. In 10 years, the internet was already clearly adding a ton of value all over the place. Bitcoin is not really a 'young technology' anymore, and the only thing it has enabled so far is risky, unregulated investment strategies, and an staggering amount of crime.

I'm as skeptical of Bitcoin as anyone, but this is not a very good argument. You'd come to the same conclusion if you evaluated the state of aviation in 1900 or photography in 1820. Even the Internet was useless to the average person in 1982 (13 years in).
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