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The Lonely Office Is Bad for America

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Re: The Lonely Office Is Bad for America

#3
“People starting out need offices to learn a profession, to make friends, meet colleagues, find romantic partners and mates.”

Pretty sure that said people would respond with “ok boomer.”

All evidence I have seen is that the youth are more prepared than ever to navigate these matters with or without lots of close proximity.

Culture changes before our eyes. Change isn’t always bad, even when we struggle to keep up with it.

Re: The Lonely Office Is Bad for America

#4
> My mind goes first to the young. People starting out need offices to learn a profession, to make friends, meet colleagues

This is what I think remote work advocates miss -- pure remote makes work 100% work, 0% percent anything else. This is probably fine if you work at a horrible finance firm where this was the case anyway, but for people in creative/tech professions where fun stuff / offsites / happy hours were the norm? Remote is such a massive downgrade in that case.

Re: The Lonely Office Is Bad for America

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> My mind goes first to the young. People starting out need offices to learn a profession, to make friends, meet colleagues This is what I think remote work advocates miss -- pure remote makes work 100% work, 0% percent anything else. This is probably fine if you work at a horrible finance firm where this was the case anyway, but for people in creative/tech professions where fun stuff / offsites / happy hours were th…

I derived zero pleasure from the social interactions in the office for the first five years of my career. Zero real mentorship either.

Making for a good social environment is a deliberate choice. You can do it online or offline. The best interactions at work I’ve had when we instituted brown bag lunches and made the first and last ten minutes of our weeklies into a space just for idling.

Re: The Lonely Office Is Bad for America

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> My mind goes first to the young. People starting out need offices to learn a profession, to make friends, meet colleagues This is what I think remote work advocates miss -- pure remote makes work 100% work, 0% percent anything else. This is probably fine if you work at a horrible finance firm where this was the case anyway, but for people in creative/tech professions where fun stuff / offsites / happy hours were th…

Oh no don't worry they weren't missed. Now I have to spend late Friday logged into Zoom while people awkwardly drink alcohol and talk about their dogs.

Re: The Lonely Office Is Bad for America

#9

> My mind goes first to the young. People starting out need offices to learn a profession, to make friends, meet colleagues This is what I think remote work advocates miss -- pure remote makes work 100% work, 0% percent anything else. This is probably fine if you work at a horrible finance firm where this was the case anyway, but for people in creative/tech professions where fun stuff / offsites / happy hours were th…

My experience in tech has been that we’ve had a lot more positive social interaction online than in-person. In-person, everyone feels like they have to be productive for the full eight hours in the workplace, while working remotely people feel more free to spend some time being social.

Re: The Lonely Office Is Bad for America

#10
At some point in the 20th century, America invented big-scale office life. We were the envy of the world for it.

And so it would have continued, had not certain ideas about the shape of the world turned out to be disastrously wrong.

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