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Re: Build Unix, Not Uber

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Post by jjj123 »

kortilla wrote: post #75
meheleventyone wrote: post #52

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Isn’t that more to do with when GPS was deployed. Doing things early is harder and takes longer, even more so when you’re first. Comparatively Starlink has fewer novel problems to solve. If you’re going to compare the two you need to control for confounding factors.

>Comparatively Starlink has fewer novel problems to solve. Lol, this is worse than the infamous Dropbox comment. There are no LEO providers except for Starlink for a reason. Starlink required novel launch techniques, novel antennas, novel network management, and that’s just what we know about publicly.

The parent comment wasn’t saying that starlink has no Novel problems to solve, just that there were fewer than GPS.

Re: Build Unix, Not Uber

#102

Post by kawera »

Animats wrote: post #25

An alternative to the corporation is the chaord. This is an idea that went nowhere. Except that Visa International was a chaord. A chaord is useful when you have a shared resource that's needed by competing entities. That's exactly what Visa International was set up to be. It's an operator of a data network and a standards body. It doesn't issue cards. It doesn't handle money. It just transmits transaction data betwe…

Transcription of a talk by Dee Hoch on chaord and Visa: https://www.fs.fed.us/im/philos/chaordic.htm

Re: Build Unix, Not Uber

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Post by throwaway14356 »

CSMastermind wrote: post #48
throwaway14356 wrote: post #44

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If gov does identity and personal data is sensitive it might as well offer social connectivity?

Honestly I'm half expecting the US government to offer an identity service at some point. I know it would probably be challenged on constitutional grounds but it would finally be a somewhat authoritative way to cut down on fake accounts.

Instant value right there!

Re: Build Unix, Not Uber

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Post by meheleventyone »

jjj123 wrote: post #101
kortilla wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Comparatively Starlink has fewer novel problems to solve. Lol, this is worse than the infamous Dropbox comment. There are no LEO providers except for Starlink for a reason. Starlink required novel launch techniques, novel antennas, novel network management, and that’s just what we know about publicly.

The parent comment wasn’t saying that starlink has no Novel problems to solve, just that there were fewer than GPS.

Absolutely I think people don’t realise that the GPS project began in 1973!

Re: Build Unix, Not Uber

#105

Post by wizofaus »

dylan604 wrote: post #95
wizofaus wrote: post #88

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I don't doubt such shops exist but based on job ads I've seen and interviews I've done they're very much the minority at least in my part of the world. Why a non-iOS developer would choose macOS I don't quite get but each to their own. I'm willing to bet a significant percentage of developers do typically use Windows, even if there is growing tendency to use WSL+Docker for core development activities.

Non-iOS developer that chooses to use macOS right here. Why? First, because it's not Windows. Second, it runs other software that I need that isn't available on nix. I can run nix style stuff with BSD flair. I can run things native, no VM or docker container. There's lots of reasons. Mainly, I abhor Windows.

I'm actually fine with basically any OS, I've used them all over the years to various degrees. But MacOS was always the one where I felt I was working with one hand tied behind my back, with various things I use all the time (extended keyboard with separate Del/Backspace, right mouse button/ scroll wheel, many software tools, ability to poke around "under the cover" etc.) either outright missing or compromised on MacOS/Apple hardware. Though it's Apple's whole approach to forced software upgrades that annoys me the most. The battery life is good though.

Re: Build Unix, Not Uber

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Post by dylan604 »

wizofaus wrote: post #105
dylan604 wrote: post #95

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Non-iOS developer that chooses to use macOS right here. Why? First, because it's not Windows. Second, it runs other software that I need that isn't available on nix. I can run nix style stuff with BSD flair. I can run things native, no VM or docker container. There's lots of reasons. Mainly, I abhor Windows.

I'm actually fine with basically any OS, I've used them all over the years to various degrees. But MacOS was always the one where I felt I was working with one hand tied behind my back, with various things I use all the time (extended keyboard with separate Del/Backspace, right mouse button/ scroll wheel, many software tools, ability to poke around "under the cover" etc.) either outright missing or compromised on Mac…

Unless you're only using built-in laptop keyboard/trackpad, why is that limiting. It's USB compatible with pretty much any 3rd party. I have a full size Mac keyboard with 10-key and home/end/del/pageUp/pageDown. I hate not having it. So I'm not sure why you're unable to use the same. I do agree on their mice being a bit lacking, but again, any mouse can be used. It's not like you have to have Dell mouse with your Dell comp. Gamers all use different mice, so why the hate on a peripherial?

Re: Build Unix, Not Uber

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Post by seba_dos1 »

dylan604 wrote: post #106
wizofaus wrote: post #105

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I'm actually fine with basically any OS, I've used them all over the years to various degrees. But MacOS was always the one where I felt I was working with one hand tied behind my back, with various things I use all the time (extended keyboard with separate Del/Backspace, right mouse button/ scroll wheel, many software tools, ability to poke around "under the cover" etc.) either outright missing or compromised on Mac…

Unless you're only using built-in laptop keyboard/trackpad, why is that limiting. It's USB compatible with pretty much any 3rd party. I have a full size Mac keyboard with 10-key and home/end/del/pageUp/pageDown. I hate not having it. So I'm not sure why you're unable to use the same. I do agree on their mice being a bit lacking, but again, any mouse can be used. It's not like you have to have Dell mouse with your Del…

> Unless you're only using built-in laptop keyboard/trackpad

Well, I am. I find it too cumbersome otherwise. If I wanted to have a desktop workstation, I would have a desktop PC - with a laptop, I'm working on its keyboard and touchpad, so I can move with it anywhere I want and still be as comfortable using it as usual.

Re: Build Unix, Not Uber

#108

Post by msla »

trasz wrote: post #93
msla wrote: post #54

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The Internet already got out so fast it beat the Big Government Solution, which was OSI, so comprehensively that people these days don't even know that there was an OSI protocol suite, let alone that it got beaten by the TCP/IP stack. Back in the early days, the ARPANET stuff was seen as a sideshow, whereas OSI was going to be the Serious Network for Serious Users, with X.500 directory services supporting X.400 email…

I believe OSI was at least as much corporate as it was governmental. And, like most corporate solutions it ended like it ended, with design by committee. IP on the other hand was neither, like much of successful technology. As a side note, the OSI layers are useful as a mental model, but trying to maintain that separation in actual implementation is a poor idea; that’s one of the things IP got right: it doesn’t reall…

> that’s one of the things IP got right: it doesn’t really match OSI layering, and does cut through layers when it makes sense.

It doesn't implement the OSI layering model, in other words, even if you can almost make that model fit if you ignore the top couple layers and handwave vigorously the rest of the time.

If you look, you can find a four-layer or five-layer TCP/IP model, but RFC 3439 has a section titled "Layering Considered Harmful" and it's clear that the IETF doesn't always think in terms of layers.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc3439

Of course, none of that stops the Seven-Layer Model (blessed be its name) from being perpetuated as if it were an absolute.

Re: Build Unix, Not Uber

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Post by wizofaus »

dylan604 wrote: post #106
wizofaus wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm actually fine with basically any OS, I've used them all over the years to various degrees. But MacOS was always the one where I felt I was working with one hand tied behind my back, with various things I use all the time (extended keyboard with separate Del/Backspace, right mouse button/ scroll wheel, many software tools, ability to poke around "under the cover" etc.) either outright missing or compromised on Mac…

Unless you're only using built-in laptop keyboard/trackpad, why is that limiting. It's USB compatible with pretty much any 3rd party. I have a full size Mac keyboard with 10-key and home/end/del/pageUp/pageDown. I hate not having it. So I'm not sure why you're unable to use the same. I do agree on their mice being a bit lacking, but again, any mouse can be used. It's not like you have to have Dell mouse with your Del…

If I really had no choice but to use a Mac for the majority of my work then, sure, I'd invest in better peripherals but the times I've worked with them that generally wasn't a readily available option or worth my while. And there's no hate - if I'd used mostly Macs for the last 35+ years I'd probably find various things missing on Wintel machines to be a drag on productivity too.

Re: Build Unix, Not Uber

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Post by dylan604 »

seba_dos1 wrote: post #107
dylan604 wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you're only using built-in laptop keyboard/trackpad, why is that limiting. It's USB compatible with pretty much any 3rd party. I have a full size Mac keyboard with 10-key and home/end/del/pageUp/pageDown. I hate not having it. So I'm not sure why you're unable to use the same. I do agree on their mice being a bit lacking, but again, any mouse can be used. It's not like you have to have Dell mouse with your Del…

> Unless you're only using built-in laptop keyboard/trackpad Well, I am. I find it too cumbersome otherwise. If I wanted to have a desktop workstation, I would have a desktop PC - with a laptop, I'm working on its keyboard and touchpad, so I can move with it anywhere I want and still be as comfortable using it as usual.

and what non-Apple laptop is available with a full sized keyboard that you'd be okay using? it just seems such a petty thing when no other laptop meets your "needs"
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