Review of 17α-ethynylestradiol in water across 32 countries: Estrogenic effects
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Review of 17α-ethynylestradiol in water across 32 countries: Estrogenic effects
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Re: Review of 17α-ethynylestradiol in water across 32 countries: Estrogenic effects
#2Is this feminizing our population?
Does this affect the way we think?
Re: Review of 17α-ethynylestradiol in water across 32 countries: Estrogenic effects
#32 obvious questions (because I can't penetrate this stuff) Is this feminizing our population? Does this affect the way we think?
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#4Re: Review of 17α-ethynylestradiol in water across 32 countries: Estrogenic effects
#52 obvious questions (because I can't penetrate this stuff) Is this feminizing our population? Does this affect the way we think?
I guess if you live in South America or China, then maybe the population is being feminized. Otherwise, no, at least not by this.
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#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
What does feminizing mean?
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#8> The top 10 countries ranked in the order of high to low average EE2 concentration in surface water, were Vietnam, Cambodia, China, Laos, Brazil, Argentina, Kuwait, Thailand, Indonesia and Portugal, with the respective mean concentrations of 27.7, 22.1, 21.5, 21.1, 13.6, 9.6, 9.5, 8.8, 7.6 and 6.6 ng/L
Going by Wikipedia, lets see what a does is... "Doses of more than 50 µg EE are considered high-dose, doses of 30 and 35 µg EE are considered low-dose, and doses of 10 to 25 µg EE are considered very low dose"[1] More specifically for transfem use of 2mg orally is considered a low dose[2]
Let's consider that the average person drinks 4 liters of water a day. In Vietnam that's 0.11µg a day, or 1/100th of a normal dose for an estradiol treatment for birth control and 1/20th rate of a "low dose" for MTF transfem usage in the most polluted country.
Do I think this pollutant is fine and not a concern? No. It has other side effects and it's probably not great to have all the compounds we give to livestock running off into our drinking water.
I bring this up because of the right wing fear of the "feminization of men." Vietnam you could get 1/20th a low dose of EE2 a day and whatever you're getting elsewhere less. Where the right wing ideology on this is strongest (US perhaps?) people would be getting a lower dose than even listed in the abstract, so 1/80th or less a day.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethinylestradiol
[2] https://transfemscience.org/articles/e2-equivalent-doses/
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EDIT: a different comment actually posted a chart showing the level of exposure in the US, which is LESS than 1ng. So less than 1/200th of a low dose. Calm down folks, or at least find something different to be afraid of.
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#92 obvious questions (because I can't penetrate this stuff) Is this feminizing our population? Does this affect the way we think?
I have no idea why this was posted without full-text available, but there is at least this: https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S03014797210086... I guess if you live in South America or China, then maybe the population is being feminized. Otherwise, no, at least not by this.
Re: Review of 17α-ethynylestradiol in water across 32 countries: Estrogenic effects
#102 obvious questions (because I can't penetrate this stuff) Is this feminizing our population? Does this affect the way we think?
What does feminizing mean?