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How far can you go by train in 5h?

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Re: How far can you go by train in 5h?

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Again, you're conflating things. There is a market for low latency rail freight. The rail companies find that it's better to keep the rail as is and invest the profits somewhere else. That doesn't mean that the market doesn't exist. The correct approach is for low latency rail freight to operate on passenger rail systems which already have the necessary speeds and flexibilities. This is structurally unfeasible in the…

The freight companies own the railway, they optimize the rails for freight, which is why we move much more freight by train than Europe. Passenger service is something they do for the federal government subsidy and nothing more. And actually, sharing tracks between passenger and freight service is something that they don't really do in Europe. Because they share tracks, American passenger trains have to build at a we…

A big part of why the US moves more by rail is simply because it moves more goods overland than in Europe.

Low latency freight for smaller, high value items is often done on passenger lines (or even passenger trains) because it doesn't put any scheduling pressure on passenger service.

As far as use of freight in Europe, the elephant in the room is that the EU uses a lot more sea freight than the US. Indeed, while the modal split for EU trucking is around 50%, it's around 70% in the US, and it thus seems clear that the real reason that there is less rail shipping within Europe is because there is much more competition from maritime shipping.

Re: How far can you go by train in 5h?

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Five hours, I assume, is the maximum amount of time an average person can enjoy sitting in a train. With overnight trains making a comeback, there are much more possibilities. I recently enjoyed falling asleep in Central Europe and waking up over the Alps near the sea. Trains are amazing.

It’s more comfortable to be on a train than a flight and people are happy taking ten hour plus flights no problem.

Only because there are no viable alternatives to a 10 hour flight. But the alternative to a 10 hour train ride is a 1-2 hour flight.

Re: How far can you go by train in 5h?

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Wendover had a video on this topic just this week: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9jirFqex6g For a short summary, the basic problem is that rail infrastructure is paid for by national funds, so there is a bigger incentive to connect two places within the same country than to connect one place within the country to another place within a neighboring country. Wendover theorizes that the decoupling of rail networks fr…

> Wendover theorizes that the decoupling of rail networks from rail service operators (as pushed by the EU-level government) can lead to new demand for international routes as budget operators spring up that are less tied to the demands of a particular national government. Some problems with that approach are 1. It doesn't take that many different operators before you start running into capacity limits of the network…

I will admit to having only read the first point of the long post, so I'll just respond to that:

> It doesn't take that many different operators before you start running into capacity limits of the network

Don't get this. If there is that much demand, then clearly it makes sense to build out the system? More rails, higher speed, and/or better bypasses for trains that need to stop at each station for example.

It's usually a hard question to predict where public or investment money is best spent, but this situation seems like it would be quite clear.

Re: How far can you go by train in 5h?

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That is a very nice app and, funnily enough, I was doing this manually (via Trainline) yesterday after watching this Wendover Production video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9jirFqex6g.

One suggestion for the app: allow us to pin a city when clicking on the desktop version ;)

Re: How far can you go by train in 5h?

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As a European it boggles my mind seeing how trains are basically non-existent in the USA (just look at Houston station), given how dominant the whole "Wild West" railroad rush is in everybody's immagination. Railroads are super ubiquitous here, and we've to work with a pretty hostile terrain - Italy has lots of mountains, hills, rivers, and yet has one of the best networks in the world. Most of the USA are basically…

The fact the US is basically empty means the cost to build a HSR route to go between population centers is super high because of the sheer distances involved. You’re talking like 1000 miles, not 200. The places which are closer together, like the East Coast, do have some passenger rail but they’re also much denser, like Europe, and so they have the same kind of constraints (or worse). The US has a lot of freight rail…

Distance alone isn't enough of a reason though, Beijing–Shanghai is 1200 KM and yet you can cover that by train no problem in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beijing%E2%80%93Shanghai_high-...

Re: How far can you go by train in 5h?

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By 2015 Zillow was already well entrenched, what was your differentiator?

Zillow doesn't have isochrones, for one. I long for a map experience that's more like a SQL query than a catalog, and Zillow's filtering leaves a lot to be desired.

I agree, Zillow has lackluster filtering. I’ve been working on something similar for people looking for remote work and aren’t particular about where they live. How did the project end up? What were the good parts and the bad parts?

Re: How far can you go by train in 5h?

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South West connectivity is fine, you can get from Plymouth to Exeter to Bristol to Birmingham and up to Edinburgh without going anywhere near London.

The South West is er not at all 'North of London' though, last I was there (where I was 'born and raised'). We also don't really have any of the major cities I meant in that context, Bristol I suppose. How do you get from Bournemouth to Bristol for example - via Dorchester with a station change? How about Southampton to Exeter - via Bristol? It's by no means the worst region, and I claimed the opposite, but it still…

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Re: How far can you go by train in 5h?

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We're not talking about doing NYC - SF by train, but there are a lot of places where it makes sense. As I used to live in the Bay Area, it really surprised me that there was no bullet train between San Francisco and Los Angeles. Yes, apparently it's planned but it boggles my mind that they waited so much before building it. Americans don't realize how much nicer train is compared to plane for medium distances (up to…

> Yes, apparently it's planned but it boggles my mind that they waited so much before building it. Basically because there are only 2-3 places you can practically cross the mountains surrounding LA (Tehachapi Tejon, and the coast), and 3-4 places you can do the same for the SFBA. All of them are already occupied by existing rail or roads. Those mountain crossings cost more that the rest of the system combined. > get…

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