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Re: Tell HN: Apple Pay works in non-Safari browsers in iOS 16 Beta 3

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Where will that leave US users?

My guess would be paying higher prices to pick up the slack for the missing EU users when the "gatekeepers" abandon or greatly shrink operations in the EU after evaluating the cost of compliance.

On the plus side, big opportunity for EU consumers to become familiar with Chinese phones and operating systems.

Re: Tell HN: Apple Pay works in non-Safari browsers in iOS 16 Beta 3

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I hate that you cant sideload today but its gonna lead to tons of malware

Alternatively we may end up with better app stores with far less malware and trash. As much as apple enthusiasts like to claim the app store is as good as it can get, there's a ton of room for improvement IMO. Just getting rid of the games that prey on children and addiction would be a good start.

It sounds like you envision a world of many different walled gardens, instead of the single Apple-policed walled garden.

I can see how that would be attractive in some ways. On the other hand, parent's aren't necessarily smarter than anyone else.

"Install this rando app store and get 12¢ off your next gas fill-up!"

Re: Tell HN: Apple Pay works in non-Safari browsers in iOS 16 Beta 3

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I hate that you cant sideload today but its gonna lead to tons of malware

Alternatively we may end up with better app stores with far less malware and trash. As much as apple enthusiasts like to claim the app store is as good as it can get, there's a ton of room for improvement IMO. Just getting rid of the games that prey on children and addiction would be a good start.

Children and addiction are your two problems with the App Store? How exactly do think a third-party free-for-all set of app stores is going to do better?

Re: Tell HN: Apple Pay works in non-Safari browsers in iOS 16 Beta 3

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This is good news, I hope they make it available in all “In App Browsers” (IABs) too, along with all saved payment cards in your key chain. As a data point from an online retailer, we kept seeing a significantly high (I think it was something ridiculous like 30%) drop out at the check out payment screen for all Facebook/Instagram ad customers. What was happening was they were clicking on ads, coming to our site, goin…

> The in app browsers have an “open in Safari” button, they were clicking that - so they could use their prefers payment method - and loosing their session and shopping cart. It was catastrophic!

This is one of the few instances in which Android went to some lengths to provide a good UX. An IAB can transition into the real thing without even re-rendering or blinking - and it has all the user data of the main browser.

Re: Tell HN: Apple Pay works in non-Safari browsers in iOS 16 Beta 3

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Probably preparations due to the upcoming EU framework. As a short summary, here are some of the new EU requirements on gatekeepers such as Apple. Gatekeepers must: - Allow users to install apps from third-party app stores and sideload directly from the internet. - Allow developers to offer third-party payment systems in apps and promote offers outside the gatekeeper's platforms. - Allow developers to integrate their…

- Give developers access to any hardware feature, such as "near-field communication technology, secure elements and processors, authentication mechanisms, and the software used to control those technologies." Here comes the Meta App Store to bypass all iOS privacy protections :( I really like the idea of an eject button to run arbitrary code and operating systems on my pocket computer, but 99% of the time I want it t…

A better way to think of it, is:

Here comes F-Droid to further enhance iOS with privacy respecting applications

Re: Tell HN: Apple Pay works in non-Safari browsers in iOS 16 Beta 3

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post #19

No it doesn't, because there is no such thing as a non-safari browser on iOS. Firefox, Chrome, anything Apple will allow is just Safari in a different costume.

Except they use their own browser features, sync, telemetry, privacy practices, business model etc...

Re: Tell HN: Apple Pay works in non-Safari browsers in iOS 16 Beta 3

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post #32

Probably preparations due to the upcoming EU framework. As a short summary, here are some of the new EU requirements on gatekeepers such as Apple. Gatekeepers must: - Allow users to install apps from third-party app stores and sideload directly from the internet. - Allow developers to offer third-party payment systems in apps and promote offers outside the gatekeeper's platforms. - Allow developers to integrate their…

- Give developers access to any hardware feature, such as "near-field communication technology, secure elements and processors, authentication mechanisms, and the software used to control those technologies." Here comes the Meta App Store to bypass all iOS privacy protections :( I really like the idea of an eject button to run arbitrary code and operating systems on my pocket computer, but 99% of the time I want it t…

Why would you download the Meta App store to begin with?

Re: Tell HN: Apple Pay works in non-Safari browsers in iOS 16 Beta 3

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My guess would be paying higher prices to pick up the slack for the missing EU users when the "gatekeepers" abandon or greatly shrink operations in the EU after evaluating the cost of compliance.

On the plus side, big opportunity for EU consumers to become familiar with Chinese phones and operating systems.

> On the plus side

I'm an European and I really don't consider this a plus.

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