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Tell HN: Apple Pay works in non-Safari browsers in iOS 16 Beta 3

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Re: Tell HN: Apple Pay works in non-Safari browsers in iOS 16 Beta 3

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Post by freediver »

MBCook wrote: post #11
hk1337 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this intended for actual non-Safari browsers like actual Chrome or Firefox on iOS or just what there is now where Chrome and Firefox on top of the same WebKit engine as Safari?

Everything is still Safari underneath. That’s probably never changing as long as Apple has a say (that new EU law may force it). But this would mean you could use ApplePay from the current FireFox app.

You mean everything is WebKit underneath. Safari and Chrome on iOS are very different browsers.

Re: Tell HN: Apple Pay works in non-Safari browsers in iOS 16 Beta 3

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Post by zaptrem »

sandstrom wrote: post #25

Probably preparations due to the upcoming EU framework. As a short summary, here are some of the new EU requirements on gatekeepers such as Apple. Gatekeepers must: - Allow users to install apps from third-party app stores and sideload directly from the internet. - Allow developers to offer third-party payment systems in apps and promote offers outside the gatekeeper's platforms. - Allow developers to integrate their…

- Give developers access to any hardware feature, such as "near-field communication technology, secure elements and processors, authentication mechanisms, and the software used to control those technologies."

Here comes the Meta App Store to bypass all iOS privacy protections :(

I really like the idea of an eject button to run arbitrary code and operating systems on my pocket computer, but 99% of the time I want it to "just work." If I valued the former over the latter I would have bought an Android phone.

Re: Tell HN: Apple Pay works in non-Safari browsers in iOS 16 Beta 3

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Post by thehappypm »

sandstrom wrote: post #25

Probably preparations due to the upcoming EU framework. As a short summary, here are some of the new EU requirements on gatekeepers such as Apple. Gatekeepers must: - Allow users to install apps from third-party app stores and sideload directly from the internet. - Allow developers to offer third-party payment systems in apps and promote offers outside the gatekeeper's platforms. - Allow developers to integrate their…

I hate that you cant sideload today but its gonna lead to tons of malware

Re: Tell HN: Apple Pay works in non-Safari browsers in iOS 16 Beta 3

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Post by cgb223 »

sandstrom wrote: post #25

Probably preparations due to the upcoming EU framework. As a short summary, here are some of the new EU requirements on gatekeepers such as Apple. Gatekeepers must: - Allow users to install apps from third-party app stores and sideload directly from the internet. - Allow developers to offer third-party payment systems in apps and promote offers outside the gatekeeper's platforms. - Allow developers to integrate their…

Does this mean I can finally have a browser running its own rendering engine that supports its own extensions in iOS?

Re: Tell HN: Apple Pay works in non-Safari browsers in iOS 16 Beta 3

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Post by donmcronald »

thehappypm wrote: post #33
sandstrom wrote: post #25

Probably preparations due to the upcoming EU framework. As a short summary, here are some of the new EU requirements on gatekeepers such as Apple. Gatekeepers must: - Allow users to install apps from third-party app stores and sideload directly from the internet. - Allow developers to offer third-party payment systems in apps and promote offers outside the gatekeeper's platforms. - Allow developers to integrate their…

I hate that you cant sideload today but its gonna lead to tons of malware

Alternatively we may end up with better app stores with far less malware and trash. As much as apple enthusiasts like to claim the app store is as good as it can get, there's a ton of room for improvement IMO. Just getting rid of the games that prey on children and addiction would be a good start.

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Post by pharmakom »

sandstrom wrote: post #25

Probably preparations due to the upcoming EU framework. As a short summary, here are some of the new EU requirements on gatekeepers such as Apple. Gatekeepers must: - Allow users to install apps from third-party app stores and sideload directly from the internet. - Allow developers to offer third-party payment systems in apps and promote offers outside the gatekeeper's platforms. - Allow developers to integrate their…

Proper Firefox HERE WE COME!!!!

Re: Tell HN: Apple Pay works in non-Safari browsers in iOS 16 Beta 3

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Post by amelius »

sandstrom wrote: post #25

Probably preparations due to the upcoming EU framework. As a short summary, here are some of the new EU requirements on gatekeepers such as Apple. Gatekeepers must: - Allow users to install apps from third-party app stores and sideload directly from the internet. - Allow developers to offer third-party payment systems in apps and promote offers outside the gatekeeper's platforms. - Allow developers to integrate their…

Where will that leave US users?

Re: Tell HN: Apple Pay works in non-Safari browsers in iOS 16 Beta 3

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Post by GeekyBear »

donmcronald wrote: post #35
thehappypm wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate that you cant sideload today but its gonna lead to tons of malware

Alternatively we may end up with better app stores with far less malware and trash. As much as apple enthusiasts like to claim the app store is as good as it can get, there's a ton of room for improvement IMO. Just getting rid of the games that prey on children and addiction would be a good start.

It's about 100% more likely that it's going lead to every company that chafes under Apple's current "you have to ask permission before you can do that" rules to begin to only offer their apps outside the App Store.

Remember the original Android permission model of "an app gets every permission it wants or you can't install it"? That's where this is heading.

Re: Tell HN: Apple Pay works in non-Safari browsers in iOS 16 Beta 3

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Post by KerrAvon »

amelius wrote: post #37
sandstrom wrote: post #25

Probably preparations due to the upcoming EU framework. As a short summary, here are some of the new EU requirements on gatekeepers such as Apple. Gatekeepers must: - Allow users to install apps from third-party app stores and sideload directly from the internet. - Allow developers to offer third-party payment systems in apps and promote offers outside the gatekeeper's platforms. - Allow developers to integrate their…

Where will that leave US users?

My guess would be paying higher prices to pick up the slack for the missing EU users when the "gatekeepers" abandon or greatly shrink operations in the EU after evaluating the cost of compliance.
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