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Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by BoorishBears »

fauigerzigerk wrote: post #419
BoorishBears wrote: post #414

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stage Manager will straight up not work on non-M1 iPads. You cannot keep 4 major apps in memory without seeing an eviction. Also your comparison doesn't make sense, you're comparing iOS built-in apps to Android 3rd party apps by Google... AOSP's built-in photos and emails apps have barely been updated in the last decade. All in all if you think iPadOS is letting you down, Android upgrades are a circus that Google ref…

>you're comparing iOS built-in apps to Android 3rd party apps by Google I'm not comparing them, I'm putting them aside for this comparison, because Apple links a lot of regular apps to the release cycle of the OS while Google doesn't do that. That's a separate issue that isn't relevant for the point I was making. I'm only talking about features that would have to be part of the OS on iOS as well as on Android. There…

I honestly don't know what point you're making.

You realize the Gmail app is not the equivalent of the iOS Mail app right? That would be the AOSP email app which only gets updates when Android OS gets updates...

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

#422

Post by fauigerzigerk »

BoorishBears wrote: post #421
fauigerzigerk wrote: post #419

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>you're comparing iOS built-in apps to Android 3rd party apps by Google I'm not comparing them, I'm putting them aside for this comparison, because Apple links a lot of regular apps to the release cycle of the OS while Google doesn't do that. That's a separate issue that isn't relevant for the point I was making. I'm only talking about features that would have to be part of the OS on iOS as well as on Android. There…

I honestly don't know what point you're making. You realize the Gmail app is not the equivalent of the iOS Mail app right? That would be the AOSP email app which only gets updates when Android OS gets updates...

>I honestly don't know what point you're making.

My point is that I didn't get the most important new iPad OS features on my new-ish iPad. Apple simply didn't implement those features in a way that makes them work on relatively recent devices.

>You realize the Gmail app is not the equivalent of the iOS Mail app right?

Yes, but the differences are not relevant to the debate. I'm talking about OS features only, and I'm disregarding regular apps that just happen to get distributed along with the OS for business reasons.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by SahAssar »

fomine3 wrote: post #238
SahAssar wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was discontinued after just under two months due to poor reviews and some sort of regulatory issue in japan.

Its sales was suspended due to certification issue, but is now sold again. Initial price was too expensive but finally it's available at $270. https://iosys.co.jp/items/smartphone/balmuda/softbank/balmud...

Interesting, do you know if one can buy it without a contract internationally? I live in the EU and would be very interested in one.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by chakkepolja »

fsflover wrote: post #285
pjerem wrote: post #219

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It’s sad that no phone maker is playing the open and standard platform game. A brand like Asus would have everything to win with this : they already are recognized as a « geek » brand, they could ship updates with no effort and they could get free marketing from the word to mouth of the « geek of the family ». Instead of that, like any other Android manufacturer in the market, they ship great hardware with shitty or…

> It’s sad that no phone maker is playing the open and standard platform game. How about this one: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5 ?

by 'phone maker', GP probably meant something that normal people can use and not terribly overpriced for the value it provides.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by nfriedly »

tim-- wrote: post #195
iamsrp wrote: post #93

I switched to the Zenfone series (around 6 or 7) after the HTC ones died a death. I like that they have an SD card and dual SIM. Happy with the Android version too; it's been fine from my perspective. I found them reliable and will probably upgrade my 8 flip at some point soon for this one (or a flip version), if only to try to vote with my wallet to keep Asus making more; we need more competition in the phone space.…

It looks like there is no SD Card slot in the Zenfone 9.

Yeah, unfortunately Asus took that away a couple of generations back. It's the main thing that keeps me away from their more recent phones.

I can sort-of understand omitting microSD support in a "compact" phone that's targeting a more mainstream market, but the part that really boggles my mind is that they've never had a microSD slot in any of their "gamer" ROG phones. Those things are huge, and also sold to a demographic that is more likely than average to want all the storage they can get.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by nfriedly »

mmanfrin wrote: post #183

Every single ASUS product I've ever purchased had been slickly designed and terribly QCed. And they have a nightmarish support system.

I've had decent experience with an Asus motherboard, but yea, everything else fits that description.

I had an asus monitor that would freeze if my macbook woke from sleep while connected to it - I'd have to unplug the monitor from the wall power and plug it back in to reboot it.

I also had an asus laptop that I sent in for repair because it had dead pixels. I should have just returned it, because it took them months to get it back to me, and when they finally did, the plastic around the screen was cracked. And, at that point it was too late to return it for a refund.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by brnt »

cercatrova wrote: post #73

The only problem with Asus phones in general, which is also apparent in their ROG phones, is the lack of updates. Their hardware is top-notch, literally; I've never seen faster phones. But, they don't update them consistently enough, unlike Google and Samsung which have pledged multiple years of software support through Android releases.

The only phones I consider are those supporter by LineageOS. My Pixel 1 is still getting weekly updates.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by BoorishBears »

fauigerzigerk wrote: post #422
BoorishBears wrote: post #421

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly don't know what point you're making. You realize the Gmail app is not the equivalent of the iOS Mail app right? That would be the AOSP email app which only gets updates when Android OS gets updates...

>I honestly don't know what point you're making. My point is that I didn't get the most important new iPad OS features on my new-ish iPad. Apple simply didn't implement those features in a way that makes them work on relatively recent devices. >You realize the Gmail app is not the equivalent of the iOS Mail app right? Yes, but the differences are not relevant to the debate. I'm talking about OS features only, and I'm…

> My point is that I didn't get the most important new iPad OS features on my new-ish iPad. Apple simply didn't implement those features in a way that makes them work on relatively recent devices

Like I said already:

- there was no magical way to make this feature work on your "newish iPad".

- You can even test it yourself: open Safari, open a few productivity apps, and watch the cold starts come flying.

- Stage Manager is not the most important feature, being on the newest development target is since if you're not most updated apps will not support your device in 12 months

> I'm talking about OS features only, and I'm disregarding regular apps that just happen to get distributed along with the OS for business reasons.

So you're arbitrarily deciding which OS features count, cool... you're free to do that... but that's the definition of a strawman.

Apple's approach to an OS places more value on built in apps, so you see a ton of app based features, that use OS level APIs that don't exist until a new OS upgrade.

You're trying to say Apple could just ship them as app updates, but no, they can't. The APIs they're built on don't exist until a new OS version comes out.

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