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Re: The Knife Maker

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Aside: What is with the proliferation of vimeo usage? I've found it more likely to crash my laptop, making me reluctant to click. Never had a crash from youtube.

That's easy. Better video quality. More attractive controls/player. A community that enjoys this type of thing. Note: Youtube has been improving with respect to the first two. Also, does it really lock up your whole system?

Not the whole system, just crashes firefox. I also don't like that I can't reduce the resolution as finely as I can with youtube.

Re: The Knife Maker

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> You may get better results by buying normal and giving the savings away. // Kinda like beating people up and then paying their hospital bills? Nice.

Yes, because buying something from a non-fair-trade coffee farm is "kinda like" beating up an employee. In fact, for each dollar you spend on any non-fair-trade coffee farm, the owner not only whips an employee, he makes fun of the employee's daughter and calls her ugly. They'd all be better off if you didn't spend any money on coffee at all. Also this is true of every coffee farm everywhere in the world, except thos…

There has been ongoing evidence of both child and [child] slave labour being used in chocolate production [in West Africa]. For example.

>coffee farms certified by the experts at Fair Trade, who always thoroughly research and monitor every operation and all sales of fair trade coffee //

Research it yourself; and that's the Fairtrade mark (I've not personally researched other fair trade certifying bodies). I did. What I found was a rigorous system of monitoring. Once a firm has been well established and proven to be providing the proper care to their employees, providing safety equipment for example, I think they only send a person to inspect every 3 years - but, like I said that's after a long history of passing the rigorous testing.

Never any abuse? Doubtful, there's abuse in countries with strict labour laws that obviates (or should) the need for fair trade certification.

So then we come back to my metaphor (you understand the term and function presumably, even though you used it as a direct statement). I don't see why buying a chocolate bar should have me being part of a supply chain that includes child/slave/below poverty labour and abuse of the workforce (like spraying crops with pesticides when workers are working on them). Nor do I feel that we're in such a state of poverty as a species that we need people to be worked hard without access to sufficient funds to cover basic health and education needs.

So, you feel Fairtrade fails? That we shouldn't support people working out of poverty by preventing multinationals working for us from offering below subsistence prices for crops? That we should exclude people from getting educated and staying healthy in the name of greater profits for wealthy capitalists?

You appear to be worked up about my metaphor being imperfect; I couldn't care less about the metaphor. From everything I've seen Fairtrade works.

I've seen it before, it amazes me really, that HN has railed so hard against those that are trying to outlaw exploitative labour practices. Perhaps there are too many people here making a profit off electronics put together in Asian factories by underage workers who eke out their existence living amongst toxic chemicals working hard every day to remain in poverty?

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http://www.fairtrade.org.uk/producers/default.aspx http://www.fairtrade.org.uk/business_services/product_certif...

Re: The Knife Maker

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> You may get better results by buying normal and giving the savings away. // Kinda like beating people up and then paying their hospital bills? Nice.

Yes, because buying something from a non-fair-trade coffee farm is "kinda like" beating up an employee. In fact, for each dollar you spend on any non-fair-trade coffee farm, the owner not only whips an employee, he makes fun of the employee's daughter and calls her ugly. They'd all be better off if you didn't spend any money on coffee at all. Also this is true of every coffee farm everywhere in the world, except thos…

Sure man, read this: http://books.google.com/books?id=07YnbioeQoAC&dq=behind+....

and stop being a prick

Re: The Knife Maker

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The best knives I've ever used are these: http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=ceramic+... They are incredibly sharp - you can cut a loaf of very soft bread without squishing it at all - and no crumbs either.

You cut bread with a non-serrated knife? :) Ceramic knives have a bunch of downsides; they're even more high-maintenance than $500 custom steel knives.

> You cut bread with a non-serrated knife? :)

I never did before - but now I do. It really does cut better than a serrated. It also gives the bread an interesting very smooth texture on the cut.

Ceramic knives don't need maintenance. I don't do anything at all to them, except you have to be very careful not to bang them on anything - a good cutting board is essential. And never drop them or pry with them - they are brittle. (So I wouldn't use them to separate frozen items, or on bones.)

Mine have some knick on the edge - it doesn't hurt the cutting ability, but I figure once I have too many of those I'd either have to resharpen, or just buy them again. A $15 knife every year or two is not that expensive.

If you haven't tried them you should.

Re: The Knife Maker

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You cut bread with a non-serrated knife? :) Ceramic knives have a bunch of downsides; they're even more high-maintenance than $500 custom steel knives.

> You cut bread with a non-serrated knife? :) I never did before - but now I do. It really does cut better than a serrated. It also gives the bread an interesting very smooth texture on the cut. Ceramic knives don't need maintenance. I don't do anything at all to them, except you have to be very careful not to bang them on anything - a good cutting board is essential. And never drop them or pry with them - they are b…

Ceramic knives are cool, but I need something that can cut through bones several times a week and not be permanently out of sharp if I miss a joint or nick the knife wiggling between bones to find it.

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Budweiser is extremely close to a couple of the popular pilsners served in the czech republic. People who pretend otherwise are just pretentious.

They use 30% rice in the Czech Republic? I know Alton Brown thinks Bud is excellent with sushi

Yes, says Daniel Davies: (http://crookedtimber.org/2007/05/10/in-praise-of-budweiser-c...)

Budweiser has rice in it. So what? So do Asahi and Kirin of Japan, Bintang of Indonesia and Efes of Turkey, and nobody has such a hate on about them. Lots of the people who claim to hate Budweiser will out of the same mouth discourse long and pretentious about the merits of sake. Rice is a perfectly sensible bulk grain to make beer out of if you want a light lager, particularly in countries like America which grow a protein-rich strain of barley. Plenty of real ale types will maintain that Anheuser-Busch uses rice in its brewing in order to save money, which shows a worrying lack of curiosity, as anyone making this argument can’t possibly have looked at the price of rice and the price of barley. Adolphus Busch in 1876 was a German master brewer of exactly the sort that beer nuts go gooey over, he was trying to make a high quality beer (as proved by Budweiser’s use of expensive Saaz hops), and he decided that the best way to brew a lager was to use rice.

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No, but the price difference between buying normal and fair trade (as a consumer) is much larger than the price difference between the underlying coffee crop used in each. Tim Harford wrote about this: http://timharford.com/2008/04/business-life-fair-trade-or-fo... In some cases, he says, fair trade is 10X the margin! Fair trade exists to segment the market and collect more consumer surplus (more than it exists to im…

Also, the Fair Trade people will only certify certain business structures (they're really big fans of cooperatives), leaving a number of small family-owned businesses out of their world-view. Not that cooperatives are bad or anything, just that it's kind of a narrowing thing to do. They're opinionated. You may or may not agree with all those opinions. Fair-trade coffees are also subject to adverse selection. The real…

On fair trade coffee (and cultural capitalism): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpAMbpQ8J7g

Re: The Knife Maker

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They use 30% rice in the Czech Republic? I know Alton Brown thinks Bud is excellent with sushi

Yes, says Daniel Davies: ( http://crookedtimber.org/2007/05/10/in-praise-of-budweiser-c... ) Budweiser has rice in it. So what? So do Asahi and Kirin of Japan, Bintang of Indonesia and Efes of Turkey, and nobody has such a hate on about them. Lots of the people who claim to hate Budweiser will out of the same mouth discourse long and pretentious about the merits of sake. Rice is a perfectly sensible bulk grain to mak…

That doesn't say Germans use rice. Busch was already in America by 1857.

I'm not saying it makes the beer worse. I'm saying I can't imagine rice being used in 1800's Germany in beer.

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