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Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jul 29, 2022, 4:56 PM UTC

endisneigh wrote: post #455

jjulius wrote: post #442

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>Anonymous sources providing nothing but a statement are baseless. To the parent commenter's point, you said, "This is absolutely false". Do you have actual evidence otherwise, or are you making baseless conjecture based on, well... baseless conjecture?

Me not having evidence doesn’t mean it’s not true. Indeed my statement is equally dubious as the Twitter one. However you’ll see that I’m correct by just coming back to this thread in October. Proving a negative is generally difficult to begin with.

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Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by unity1001 » Fri, Jul 29, 2022, 4:56 PM UTC

Google's habit of shutting stuff down on people's faces is a reason why many of their services are being ignored by a lot of people. So much that it is hurting them even in the cloud even when they promise that they wont 'deprecate' so much stuff.

https://steve-yegge.medium.com/dear-google-cloud-your-deprec...

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by unity1001 » Fri, Jul 29, 2022, 4:57 PM UTC

FVYPblNGl7R9ZAc wrote: post #63

Ken_At_EM wrote: post #24

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It is highly unethical to take away copies of the game that players had to pay full price for. Stadia owes them a retail copy of the games they purchased.

That is how all of this works. If Valve went out of business then you wouldn't have any legal right or way to get the games you purchased on Steam. If Amazon shut down Prime Video then you couldn't watch the movies you purchased on it. This is not a unique problem to Google Stadia.

That doesn't work that way outside the US. There would be repercussions.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by j_barbossa » Fri, Jul 29, 2022, 4:58 PM UTC

You just can't trust any Google product anymore. They shut down your account by mistake and it's almost impossible to get it back. Or they shut down an entire service and all value you had in there is gone.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by kernal » Fri, Jul 29, 2022, 4:58 PM UTC

Remember the constant rumours that Google Cloud was being shut down? Ahh, good times. What ever happened to those rumours and the suckers that propagated that rumour?

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by dyingkneepad » Fri, Jul 29, 2022, 5:00 PM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #288

thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #15

"there'd be no license transfer of any sort, which means that any purchases made on Stadia would effectively be nullified as the service closes down." It lasted less than three years and will leave players with nothing to show. This is what people were predicting when Stadia lauched and part of the reason why it had poor adoption.

> It lasted less than three years and will leave players with nothing to show. Well they got to play the games? Not sure what you'd want to show? Like high-scores?

I still play my copies of Diablo 2 and Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction that I bought on launch day, in checks wikipedia 2000 and 2001 respectively. On Single Player, with Plugy.

I think they were worth the price I paid for them.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by camel_Snake » Fri, Jul 29, 2022, 5:00 PM UTC

olyjohn wrote: post #500

camel_Snake wrote: post #395

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I absolutely buy that Stadia might be getting shut down, but I really don't think the underlying tech is going anywhere. Google wants to white-label the service as Google Stream or something similar - they've done this already with T-Mobile[0]. If I had to guess, they'll shut down Stadia as a platform but keep the tech alive, rebrand, give everyone new URLs to play the games they've already purchased. Kinda similar t…

> give everyone new URLs to play the games they've already purchased. Call my cynical. But I don't see this happening.

yeah, perhaps. It's just a guess - but I think the marginal cost of giving people links (that they would probably use much less than the usual stadia service) would be cheap considering the overall hit to Google's reputation. I could see it being justified from an accounting perspective, and I already think they're going to keep the underlying tech active albeit in a different form. So it wouldn't bee too operationally intensive, afaik.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by jaywalk » Fri, Jul 29, 2022, 5:01 PM UTC

gre wrote: post #247

jaywalk wrote: post #150

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But Amazon sells MP3 downloads?

I can't download them anymore.

Once you download an MP3, you should protect it as you'd protect anything else you purchased instead of expecting that it would be available to re-download indefinitely.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by nitrixion » Fri, Jul 29, 2022, 5:01 PM UTC

intrasight wrote: post #373

thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #15

"there'd be no license transfer of any sort, which means that any purchases made on Stadia would effectively be nullified as the service closes down." It lasted less than three years and will leave players with nothing to show. This is what people were predicting when Stadia lauched and part of the reason why it had poor adoption.

It's "netflix for games". I am baffled that anyone would "purchase" anything on a streaming platform.

It should have been "netflix for games". If it were, it would have been hugely successful.

As it was released, I had zero interest in Stadia for all the reasons mentioned elsewhere in this thread. And I am the perfect target consumer for Stadia. I have a large monthly budget for games, I travel enough that it makes sense to have a portable gaming platform, and I embrace tech early. Even with all this, I had zero interest in Stadia simply because it was a Google product that I knew would be canceled.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by CoastalCoder » Fri, Jul 29, 2022, 5:02 PM UTC

effingwewt wrote: post #506

thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #15

"there'd be no license transfer of any sort, which means that any purchases made on Stadia would effectively be nullified as the service closes down." It lasted less than three years and will leave players with nothing to show. This is what people were predicting when Stadia lauched and part of the reason why it had poor adoption.

This right here is why I couldn't give less of a shit about google's C++ replacement. All they do is build hype and cancel without any trace even when things are successful. I'm convinced they only kept search and gmail for ads and tracking.

> This right here is why I couldn't give less of a shit about google's C++ replacement.

I think programming languages are a bit different. (Assuming they're not encumbered by patents / trademarks / copyright the way Java was/is.)

If Google decides to bail on Carbon, any design work, published implementations, etc. remain accessible for others to use or build upon.

If Google were to abandon Carbon, the main risk I see is that Google would not longer contribute to Carbon's refinement and implementation. So maybe that would reduce the odds of Carbon reaching critical mass, but it wouldn't flat out prevent people from legally continuing to use it.