Jason Scott (@textfiles) launched http://stadiacountdown.com/ the day before Stadia launched. https://mobile.twitter.com/textfiles/status/1196447880728453...
Looks like it may have been optimistic.
Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down
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#323Hey Google, buy EA and the FIFA licence renewal and Stadia will take off for sure.
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#324I avoided checking Stadia out in the first place as I thought they'd end up shutting it down after prior experiences. This seems a difficult branding loop to break, but does them no favors.
It really doesn't! The common responses you hear in these types of threads include "I didn't even try it; because I knew it would get killed." And of course, this results in lower turnout, and eventual death of the offering. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy at this point. So what's Google to even do? * They could burn money and keep the offering afloat to "prove" they are serious (seems to be the case with Stadia). *…
The problem is that Stadia isn't a scrappy startup. Google has over a hundred billion in cash, so this really just seems like a fun side-project for them. Microsoft spent $2.5 billion just to purchase a single game. I'd be surprised if Google spent even 10% of that on Stadia. Very few people are going to be interested in gaming on the cloud just to play some lightweight indie games. If Google paid the big bucks to get AAA Stadia exclusives, then more people would be interested and everyone would know that it's something that they're actually committed to.
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#325This is an anonymous source (not even verified by the original publicizer of the rumor) reporting second hand on what their "regional manager" friend heard in a "seminar". Why give any credence to this? This is about as close as it gets to "my friend has an uncle working at Nintendo" level of sourcing, but it's being taken as absolute fact by basically everyone in this thread. Mr. Killedbygoogle doesn't seem to be al…
Goolge Stadia twitter account is saying the rumour is false: https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1552989433590214656
They'd say that no matter what, even if it were true. They're as believable as the Twitter poster.
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#326Earlier quoted context omitted.
That list is irrelevant. Even if Google had never killed a product before, it would be worth believing if there is solid evidence. Here, there is none.
>That list is irrelevant. A company's operating history is absolutely relevant to whether or not people believe rumors about it's operations.
Believing baseless conjecture is dumb imo.
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#327Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is how all of this works. If Valve went out of business then you wouldn't have any legal right or way to get the games you purchased on Steam. If Amazon shut down Prime Video then you couldn't watch the movies you purchased on it. This is not a unique problem to Google Stadia.
In addition to what everyone else who has replied said, Valve (or at least a support rep, so this doesn't carry as much weight as Gabe Newell himself saying it, but it was at least someone speaking in an official capacity) has said that in the event that the Steam service has to be discontinued, "measures are in place to ensure that that all users continue to have access to their Steam games".
Hearsay in an HN comment about an unnamed support rep making a promise in a comment taken out of context isn't a legal contract.
Meanwhile, here is what Steam's subscriber agreement says https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/english/
> Steam and your Subscription(s) require the download and installation of Content and Services onto your computer. Valve hereby grants, and you accept, a non-exclusive license and right, to use the Content and Services for your personal, non-commercial use (except where commercial use is expressly allowed herein or in the applicable Subscription Terms). This license ends upon termination of (a) this Agreement or (b) a Subscription that includes the license. The Content and Services are licensed, not sold. Your license confers no title or ownership in the Content and Services. To make use of the Content and Services, you must have a Steam Account and you may be required to be running the Steam client and maintaining a connection to the Internet.
> Valve may restrict or cancel your Account or any particular Subscription(s) at any time in the event that (a) Valve ceases providing such Subscriptions to similarly situated Subscribers generally [...]
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#328Earlier quoted context omitted.
The obvious difference is that games downloaded from steam are on your machine and are yours to keep forever - if Valve goes bankrupt you can still have copies(whether they would launch or not is a different question, but I'm sure someone would find a technical solution). When Stadia shuts down that's it, the games are gone, because you can't make an offline copies of them.
If you have to download a pirate's crack to play a game, you may as well download a pirate version of the game in the first place. I don't see much substantial difference between these two scenarios. Steam is a DRM system with good branding, that gamers treat as special because it comes from Valve. Anecdotally, a lot of gamers believe and trust that Valve would free their games of DRM if Valve ever went out of busine…
Steam’s DRM “just works” and that’s why gamers don’t complain much about it. Also it’s the best way to play games under Linux.
I have a few hundreds games in steam and while maybe one day I may lose access to all of them it’s a risk I am willing to take because:
- I don’t think it will happen anytime soon because it’s a money making machine. The biggest risk for me is Microsoft acquiring it and stopping any work on Linux related stuff (I have been using steam solely on Linux for the past 7+ years)
- Even if I lose access to the library, Steam will have done a better job that I could. I know for sure that I lost the media for the first steam-enabled games I bought but I can still play them.
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#329This reveals a very worrying prospect of where gaming discourse will go.
Playstation Vs Xbox vs PC arguments are toxic enough as it is, could you imagine what they'll be when you run the very real risk of your whole collection disappearing if you back the wrong horse?
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#330Earlier quoted context omitted.
why did you do that?
I had already tried Stadia with Cyberpunk, which was a great experience and better than the console launch of the game. So I actually preordered 2 copies of the Baldurs Gate 3, as I wanted to play with my wife who does not have a gaming computer. I figured $50 gamble was better than a $1,000 computer investment. There was an early access component to the game, which is why I preordered instead of waiting for final re…
I mean why preorder if it's going to be on the cloud? You can always just wait until it's out to buy it