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Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by TurkTurkleton »

FVYPblNGl7R9ZAc wrote: post #63
Ken_At_EM wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is highly unethical to take away copies of the game that players had to pay full price for. Stadia owes them a retail copy of the games they purchased.

That is how all of this works. If Valve went out of business then you wouldn't have any legal right or way to get the games you purchased on Steam. If Amazon shut down Prime Video then you couldn't watch the movies you purchased on it. This is not a unique problem to Google Stadia.

In addition to what everyone else who has replied said, Valve (or at least a support rep, so this doesn't carry as much weight as Gabe Newell himself saying it, but it was at least someone speaking in an official capacity) has said that in the event that the Steam service has to be discontinued, "measures are in place to ensure that that all users continue to have access to their Steam games".

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Post by jfoster »

petercooper wrote: post #6

I avoided checking Stadia out in the first place as I thought they'd end up shutting it down after prior experiences. This seems a difficult branding loop to break, but does them no favors.

It's not that difficult of a loop to break. They simply need to decide: no more shut downs for the next 10 years.

After that, they need to think very carefully before starting anything new, and if they do, commit to it.

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Post by tokai »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #104
tokai wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You would still have your games files and be able to run them. Steam is not a rental or streaming service.

That's how GoG works. That's not how steam works on its own. Steam explicitly a service where you buy a defined and limited license for permission to execute the files through proprietary framework that might one day disappear. Don't get me wrong, steam is my preferred digital delivery platform and where I play majority of my games. But I am under no illusion that gives me any sort of permanence (without potential ha…

>Steam explicitly a service where you buy a defined and limited license for permission

Simply not true. There is really no arguments here. You can run most games directly from the game files without steam. In the cases were you can't you would have issues with DRM in all other venues of purchase.

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Post by MattGaiser »

thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #15

"there'd be no license transfer of any sort, which means that any purchases made on Stadia would effectively be nullified as the service closes down." It lasted less than three years and will leave players with nothing to show. This is what people were predicting when Stadia lauched and part of the reason why it had poor adoption.

I have got to wonder if Google's known lack of commitment to any given product is hurting them on things that require commitment like GCP.

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Post by technofiend »

I can't think of any other service from Google that's more weirdly polarizing, although Google's Pixel phones probably run a close second. People either find Stadia useful and say they use it regularly, or they hate it to the point they seemingly spend their days telling everyone how terrible Stadia is, how it was doomed from the start, how investing in the platform is a waste of time and money, etc. Oddly, you get the same thing on Pixel forums where people spend as much time telling everyone how they switched and how much better their new $whateverphone is than their previous $googlephone as people do looking for support or saying they like their phone just fine.

Perhaps when Google disappoints people they really disappoint them? It seems like an oddly visceral and out of proportion reaction to waste time on the internet disgruntled and complaining that some people like something you don't like.

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Post by giraffe_lady »

unnouinceput wrote: post #23
CSMastermind wrote: post #7

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> Admittedly, google stadia was kind of a joke since the beginning I don't see anything wrong with the premise of the service or even from what I understand the technical execution. Seems like the failure was around business development, marketing, community management, and brand reputation. I haven't followed to closely though so other would know better than me.

The failure was around tech. We are not there yet. Speed of light is what needs to be overcome in order for this kind of service to be viable. Until then no amount of money, business development, marketing, brand reputation will ever make this viable.

I've played like 400 hours of endgame destiny on it during the pandemic, it's fine. The criticism that you need to be near a major city may be valid, I don't know because I'm near a major city. The wifi latency is a bigger factor than the rest.
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