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Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by RGamma »

tokai wrote: post #76
FVYPblNGl7R9ZAc wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is how all of this works. If Valve went out of business then you wouldn't have any legal right or way to get the games you purchased on Steam. If Amazon shut down Prime Video then you couldn't watch the movies you purchased on it. This is not a unique problem to Google Stadia.

You would still have your games files and be able to run them. Steam is not a rental or streaming service.

Steam DRM might not easily allow this, although I trust in Valve's ethics to permit offline play if shit hits the fan.

In fact I remember reading from a community representative that there are plans for this in place (not the best source but whatever https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/18mzcn/i_asked_steam...)

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by NikolaNovak »

Ken_At_EM wrote: post #96
FVYPblNGl7R9ZAc wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is how all of this works. If Valve went out of business then you wouldn't have any legal right or way to get the games you purchased on Steam. If Amazon shut down Prime Video then you couldn't watch the movies you purchased on it. This is not a unique problem to Google Stadia.

You’re of course entirely correct. Valve feels different because you can install the games and play them on a machine of your choosing. Maybe if Stadia allowed you to play the games on your machine OR Stadia, the would have been a more compelling offering. Personally, I would have loved a service like that. There are so many games that my machine can play and I don’t want to deal with even the slightest lag, but I’ve…

>>Maybe if Stadia allowed you to play the games on your machine OR Stadia, the would have been a more compelling offering. Personally, I would have loved a service like that

GeForce now and xbox cloud both seem to check those boxes, with geforce now offering more permanence. You buy a game on steam or GoG or epic or whatever, than play it offline on your computer or stream via geforce now. I was skeptical but loved it for the last year or so when my computer couldn't run cyberpunk 2077 and I didn't want to sell kidney for a rtx card :)

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by unpopularopp »

ChildOfChaos wrote: post #20

I absolutely hope not. Stadia has provided an excellent game night for me and my remote friend (who is on a Mac) this year and we've had a blast, we mostly play little party games as nither of us our big gamers, but it makes for an excellent night,i've bought a couple of games on it that i've yet to even get too and plan to buy some more and enjoy the odd hour or two in the evenings. Stadia removes all fraction and m…

GamePass Ultimate (Xbox Cloud gaming) does streaming perfectly so as Nvidia Geforce Now

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by sascha_sl »

wrayjustin wrote: post #46
petercooper wrote: post #6

I avoided checking Stadia out in the first place as I thought they'd end up shutting it down after prior experiences. This seems a difficult branding loop to break, but does them no favors.

It really doesn't! The common responses you hear in these types of threads include "I didn't even try it; because I knew it would get killed." And of course, this results in lower turnout, and eventual death of the offering. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy at this point. So what's Google to even do? * They could burn money and keep the offering afloat to "prove" they are serious (seems to be the case with Stadia). *…

Selling games directly on Stadia might just be the wrong business model.

Selling access to a machine on demand seems much more appealing.

GeForce NOW, despite initial problems with publishers, will always leave you with the option of moving to a different service or building your own machine to run the games you own.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by moritonal »

sithadmin wrote: post #32
OrangeMonkey wrote: post #2

Three sure bets in life: * Death * Taxes * Google shutting down services Admittedly, google stadia was kind of a joke since the beginning, but I feel for consumers who buy into googles promises and even a bit for the google engineers who may be out of work soon.

I wouldn't call Stadia a joke. It does in fact work quite well. But it's not really positioned to compete with the other first-party console alternatives, nor does it have compelling features that make it a better choice than products let you DIY an experience (e.g. Parsec + self-hosted gaming rig, Steam Remote Play, GeForce Now, GPU-accelerated VDI as a service like Shadow...). For a while Google was literally givin…

"and then pretty much never invested it again."

That's the difference, there simply wasn't any point investing in Stadia, because, well, this. There was no value to achivements, generated media, friend circles or god-forbid buying games because we knew it was going to be cancelled.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by revolvingocelot »

jsnell wrote: post #75

This is an anonymous source (not even verified by the original publicizer of the rumor) reporting second hand on what their "regional manager" friend heard in a "seminar". Why give any credence to this? This is about as close as it gets to "my friend has an uncle working at Nintendo" level of sourcing, but it's being taken as absolute fact by basically everyone in this thread. Mr. Killedbygoogle doesn't seem to be al…

Yeah... The "rumour" has been going on for a while -- I myself helped promulgate it, just after Stadia released!!

I smugly clicked into TFA, expecting my cynicism to finally be flattered, but... Like the parent says, this is just that same smuggery we commenters have been predicting since the service started. It's not like the writing on the wall is ambiguous, it's just not official. This isn't the official announcement either.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by SahAssar »

rustqt6 wrote: post #64
1270018080 wrote: post #33

I have no proof but I called it on day one. This never stood a chance. It made no sense. They could've saved billions of dollars by just talking to me for 5 minutes, a gamer.

It was (is? Because rumor?) for casual players and not gamers

It was pretty clearly marketed as a competitor to consoles and gaming pc:s.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by bbatchelder »

999900000999 wrote: post #105
Ken_At_EM wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is highly unethical to take away copies of the game that players had to pay full price for. Stadia owes them a retail copy of the games they purchased.

I strongly suspect just to avoid backlash they'll refund people. But technically when you buy a game you're not really buying a game anymore, there's no physical item purchased. You're merely purchasing a temporary non-transferable license to use it. Back in the '90s if I gave you a Game boy game, it now belonged to you. I guess if I started a company renting them out Nintendo could sue me for copyright infringement…

Blockbuster Video used to rent game cartridges/CDs and even consoles.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by coremoff »

CSMastermind wrote: post #7
OrangeMonkey wrote: post #2

Three sure bets in life: * Death * Taxes * Google shutting down services Admittedly, google stadia was kind of a joke since the beginning, but I feel for consumers who buy into googles promises and even a bit for the google engineers who may be out of work soon.

> Admittedly, google stadia was kind of a joke since the beginning I don't see anything wrong with the premise of the service or even from what I understand the technical execution. Seems like the failure was around business development, marketing, community management, and brand reputation. I haven't followed to closely though so other would know better than me.

most of the user commentary I remember, and certainly my thoughts on the matter, were that Google would grow bored and shut it down pretty quickly...
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