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Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by rr888 »

cercatrova wrote: post #73

The only problem with Asus phones in general, which is also apparent in their ROG phones, is the lack of updates. Their hardware is top-notch, literally; I've never seen faster phones. But, they don't update them consistently enough, unlike Google and Samsung which have pledged multiple years of software support through Android releases.

My employer is strict on security for employee's phones to be able to install our apps. Right now they wont allow any android except Pixels, Samsung recently got taken off the list due to lack of updates.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by 2-718-281-828 »

piaste wrote: post #353
2-718-281-828 wrote: post #336

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/#asus ZenFone 8 is being supported. So, there's good chance that ZenFone 9 will be as well.

Odd that the Flip version isn't supported. I thought it was very similar.

Very similar would still need a dedicated maintainer working for free.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by sk0g »

ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #331
sk0g wrote: post #312

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's not a single screenshot of the operating system I could see, and I need to unlock the phone and all so assuming this is a custom ROM. Usually you lose access to things like GPay or certain NFC functionalities, and end up with a not-entirely stable experience anyway. I'd rather a phone that just worked. The half a dozen I had previously at least didn't struggle with the basics!

Google Pay won't work, but everything else has been quite solid for me. Additionally, it is more secure than the stock OS and significantly more protective of your privacy. Every app I've tried to use on it has worked. I recommend you give it a go. If you don't like it, you can always reinstall the stock OS at https://pixelrepair.withgoogle.com/

My bank decided to abandon their own payment solution in favour of GPay, and the neo-bank or two I do use also uses GPay, while I don't actually have physical cards for these. In short, not using GPay is not an option.

> it is more secure than the stock OS

Maybe, but I don't trust community maintainers (nor auditing) enough. At least Google has a business entity that backs their services, community ROMs have nothing of the sort.

I dabbled in ROMs and the likes previously, but I just want a phone that works like a phone should right now. I've got too many other things to tinker with already.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by christophilus »

kalleboo wrote: post #319
diego_sandoval wrote: post #253

We've gotten to the point of peak absurdity where 5.9" is considered "ultra-compact". I'm in the market for a new phone right now, and it's baffling how ridiculously big most phones are right now. I only use mine for instant messaging and browsing Hacker News. 5" is more than enough for that.

Phone manufacturers have tried selling small phones. Sony couldn't make a business of it. Even Apple reportedly can't make it go round. Face it, you're a tiny minority. My wife made fun of my iPhone Pro Max, until she inherited my old one and now she can't go back, it's huge but the screen real estate is really nice to have.

> Tiny minority

I see what you did there. Anyway, I’m in the tiny minority.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by fauigerzigerk »

BoorishBears wrote: post #325
fauigerzigerk wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

3 years of Android version updates and at least 5 years of security updates. But I have to say, Apple's OS version updates are not always quite what they seem. My 2 year old iPad gets OS updates in name only. None of the major new iPad OS features are supported. That's fine if the hardware just isn't capable of supporting those features. But it sort of muddies the water compared to an Android device that doesn't get…

Are you serious? iOS upgrades give you the entire OS experience and upgraded app support with a few flashy features missing. Compare that to Android where the best case is invisible security updates and guess which causes upgrade anxiety? I'm an Android developer for a living but I use iPhones because the Android ecosystem is currently optimized for generating e-waste. SoC manufacturers generally don't make enough mo…

>iOS upgrades give you the entire OS experience and upgraded app support with a few flashy features missing.

As you know, Google updates apps and cloud features on a continuous basis while Apple holds back most new features until they release a new OS version. If you look through the list of iPad OS 16 features for instance, you'll see that almost all of them are in fact new apps, app features and sharing/cloud features that Android users would be getting anyway [1].

Of the very few actual OS features, the most substantial one by far is Stage Manager, which is only supported on M1 iPads as esteth has said. This isn't just "a few flashy features".

I'm a bit unlucky with my iPad purchases because this is the second time I'm missing out on the most important new OS features on a new-ish iPad. Granted, nothing of the sort ever happened to me on iPhone. I'm rather happy with Apple's iOS update policy.

[1] https://www.apple.com/uk/ipados/ipados-16-preview/

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by ThePowerOfFuet »

sk0g wrote: post #363
ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #331

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google Pay won't work, but everything else has been quite solid for me. Additionally, it is more secure than the stock OS and significantly more protective of your privacy. Every app I've tried to use on it has worked. I recommend you give it a go. If you don't like it, you can always reinstall the stock OS at https://pixelrepair.withgoogle.com/

My bank decided to abandon their own payment solution in favour of GPay, and the neo-bank or two I do use also uses GPay, while I don't actually have physical cards for these. In short, not using GPay is not an option. > it is more secure than the stock OS Maybe, but I don't trust community maintainers (nor auditing) enough. At least Google has a business entity that backs their services, community ROMs have nothing…

Re Google Pay, if it's a must-have for you, then so be it.

However, re community maintainers, clearly you have read nothing about GrapheneOS, as security is by far their top priority, at the expense of nearly everything else.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by lopis »

wildmanx wrote: post #259
diego_sandoval wrote: post #253

We've gotten to the point of peak absurdity where 5.9" is considered "ultra-compact". I'm in the market for a new phone right now, and it's baffling how ridiculously big most phones are right now. I only use mine for instant messaging and browsing Hacker News. 5" is more than enough for that.

Yeah, this is ridiculous. Notice how all the models on the page have big to giant hands? One of my earliest smartphones was 4.2". That was already problematic for my hand. 5" is too large, 5.9" is out of question. I don't want a tablet for a phone. I want a phone that I can use with just one hand and still reach all corners of the screen comfortably with my thumb from a firm grip (i.e. not from the side, but with the…

> One of my earliest smartphones was 4.2"

The phone, or the screen? The Nexus 5S was the last phone I owned that I could comfortable hold and had a 4.9" screen (diagonal), but with a 70.8% screen-to-body ratio (5.43 inches tall). This Zenfone 9 has a 5.9 inches screen (diagonal) but is less than 1cm taller, and exactly as wide as the Nexus 5S.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by otikik »

diego_sandoval wrote: post #253

We've gotten to the point of peak absurdity where 5.9" is considered "ultra-compact". I'm in the market for a new phone right now, and it's baffling how ridiculously big most phones are right now. I only use mine for instant messaging and browsing Hacker News. 5" is more than enough for that.

iPhone 12 mini hits the spot for me. It's sad that no Android phone can compete on that dimension any more.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by enragedcacti »

spiffytech wrote: post #337

As a left-hander, I hope other manufacters don't move their fingerprint reader to the right edge of the device. Maybe the button is placed okay for another finger to wrap around the device and reach it? That probably depends on how finicky the reader is.

I had a Nextbit Robin which was one of the first with a side fingerprint reader, back in 2016. I'm right handed so I didn't use it often but when I did pick up the phone with my left hand my index finger worked pretty well. It was also 3mm wider than the Zenfone 9, so as long as you have an average sized hand and they haven't bungled the implementation I think it would probably work okay.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by koiueo »

otikik wrote: post #368
diego_sandoval wrote: post #253

We've gotten to the point of peak absurdity where 5.9" is considered "ultra-compact". I'm in the market for a new phone right now, and it's baffling how ridiculously big most phones are right now. I only use mine for instant messaging and browsing Hacker News. 5" is more than enough for that.

iPhone 12 mini hits the spot for me. It's sad that no Android phone can compete on that dimension any more.

I tried mini. Didn't work for me, so went for Zenfone 8.

No regrets.

The mini was big enough already to occasionally being forced to activate single hand mode.

But superior gestures navigation makes Zenfone so much easier to use with one hand.

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