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TikTok and the Fall of the Social-Media Giants

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Re: TikTok and the Fall of the Social-Media Giants

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Post by spywaregorilla »

mrkramer wrote: post #176
TacticalCoder wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Then why the hell all wannabe successful people are on LinkedIn aka the directory of professionals. They keep signing up every single day because they want to be looked up and found by their fellow professionals and potential employers. That's an entirely different thing than individual sharing private details of their personal lives.

Your business career is also your private life. Why would the whole world need to see it or anybody who uses the internet?

Your business career is your public life. You would want people to see it because they may want to work with you.

Re: TikTok and the Fall of the Social-Media Giants

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Post by spywaregorilla »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #146
timeimp wrote: post #19

I've heard (anecdotally) that the attention span of all the younger users has taken a dramatic shift south. Educators and employers are noticing they cannot keep students / new employees engaged. Makes me wonder what damage is happening, long-term, with all these short bursts of dopamine that TikTok gives it users.

I think we are in for big problems. I graduated from college in 2017 and my adult classmates couldn't even pay attention in class. If adults are hooked then children stand absolutely no chance.

You're assuming they could in 1987

Re: TikTok and the Fall of the Social-Media Giants

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Post by spywaregorilla »

odessacubbage wrote: post #135
timeimp wrote: post #19

I've heard (anecdotally) that the attention span of all the younger users has taken a dramatic shift south. Educators and employers are noticing they cannot keep students / new employees engaged. Makes me wonder what damage is happening, long-term, with all these short bursts of dopamine that TikTok gives it users.

kids are in school 9 hours a day, 5 days a week for 12+ years. if we are not using that time to facilitate developing their attention spans then the blame lies solely on the educators. if kids aren't focusing in school, first and foremost look at the content and ask if any of it is actually engaging or meaningful. in my experience we largely dedicate them to shuffling around paperwork for which their greatest possibl…

Or maybe the concept of developing an attention span is nonsense

Re: TikTok and the Fall of the Social-Media Giants

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Post by desindol »

slategruen wrote: post #91
captainmuon wrote: post #77

Modern social media leaves a very big gap - that was filled by old Facebook, or to some extent MySpace: The "people directory" where basically everybody has a page, and you can see what friends are doing, or look up acquaintances and strangers. For me, social media feeds were never addicting, but more tedious. I found visiting friends pages and sometimes finding an update, sometimes not, like a slot machine, more add…

> people are afraid of data collection now in a way they weren't in 2006 I disagree with this one. They might be afraid of sharing their data explicitly i.e. sharing everything happening to them for everyone to see (even strangers). The trend now is sharing content to people they only have very close relationships with. But them being afraid of big tech collecting and analyzing their data? I don't think so.

I believe the world is way more anonymous now when I grew up you could basically take the phone book look a name up and just call them. That's now mostly impossible.

Re: TikTok and the Fall of the Social-Media Giants

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Post by linuxhansl »

I long stopped be a user of Facebook.

In the beginning I liked the easy way it afforded me to keep in contact with friends and acquaintances. Then it included more and more "other" stuff, and I just lost interest in it. Shame really. In the beginning it was so useful and I honestly did not mind being shown some ads in exchange for that.

But now my data would be used not only to selects ads but also the other content, blurring the difference between what is an ad and what is "content". Facebook lost its way, and it looks like they're not looking for a path back.

Re: TikTok and the Fall of the Social-Media Giants

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Post by earlyriser »

captainmuon wrote: post #77

Modern social media leaves a very big gap - that was filled by old Facebook, or to some extent MySpace: The "people directory" where basically everybody has a page, and you can see what friends are doing, or look up acquaintances and strangers. For me, social media feeds were never addicting, but more tedious. I found visiting friends pages and sometimes finding an update, sometimes not, like a slot machine, more add…

Shameless autoplug. What your friends are doing (and you are invited to join them) is the focus of my app Ferris.app

Not a real directory as it's limited to the core circle of friends.

Also no data-selling, ads.

Re: TikTok and the Fall of the Social-Media Giants

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Post by fallingknife »

mrkramer wrote: post #175
fallingknife wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you share your data on Linkedin you get part of the financial value of that data collection. This is different than any other social media platform.

You get fast, powerful and easy to use communication tools for free when you use Facebook and its family of apps. Why do you think Whatsapp is so popular now and not SMS anymore?

Yes, but the data collection is tangential to that value. With Linkedin, you get direct financial benefit from having recruiters able to search Linkedin's database and target you with opportunities.

Re: TikTok and the Fall of the Social-Media Giants

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Post by Schroedingersat »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #10
Barrin92 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>TikTok, OTOH, is shaping our reality by literally altering our culture that's in the nature of every technology. 20 years ago nobody took selfies, a hundred years ago nobody took pictures (probably, idk when people got cameras) Honestly it's quite a leap from kids doing fortnite dances for likes to assume they fall off the wagon and attain no real life skills. I think that's just called getting old.

> a hundred years ago nobody took pictures (probably, idk when people got cameras) In the 1820s.

The first easily affordable and poortable camera was the box brownie which is about 120 years old.
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