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Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by ThePowerOfFuet »

sk0g wrote: post #312
ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #296

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Install GrapheneOS on it and give it another look. https://grapheneos.org/install/web

There's not a single screenshot of the operating system I could see, and I need to unlock the phone and all so assuming this is a custom ROM. Usually you lose access to things like GPay or certain NFC functionalities, and end up with a not-entirely stable experience anyway. I'd rather a phone that just worked. The half a dozen I had previously at least didn't struggle with the basics!

Google Pay won't work, but everything else has been quite solid for me. Additionally, it is more secure than the stock OS and significantly more protective of your privacy.

Every app I've tried to use on it has worked.

I recommend you give it a go.

If you don't like it, you can always reinstall the stock OS at https://pixelrepair.withgoogle.com/

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by lock-the-spock »

pjerem wrote: post #219
cercatrova wrote: post #73

The only problem with Asus phones in general, which is also apparent in their ROG phones, is the lack of updates. Their hardware is top-notch, literally; I've never seen faster phones. But, they don't update them consistently enough, unlike Google and Samsung which have pledged multiple years of software support through Android releases.

It’s sad that no phone maker is playing the open and standard platform game. A brand like Asus would have everything to win with this : they already are recognized as a « geek » brand, they could ship updates with no effort and they could get free marketing from the word to mouth of the « geek of the family ». Instead of that, like any other Android manufacturer in the market, they ship great hardware with shitty or…

The niche brands fall into this, like Fairphone (have one and love it, also for the modularity guarantee of 5 years of OS updates!) or Swiftphone, which very much encourage use of alternative OS.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by addicted »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #304
diego_sandoval wrote: post #253

We've gotten to the point of peak absurdity where 5.9" is considered "ultra-compact". I'm in the market for a new phone right now, and it's baffling how ridiculously big most phones are right now. I only use mine for instant messaging and browsing Hacker News. 5" is more than enough for that.

I'm worried. My Pixel 4 will stop receiving updates later this year but the Pixel 6 is huge and the Pixel 7 looks huge too. Why are screens getting so big? So they can shove more ads?

Because that’s what people buy.

Apple switched to a larger screen size not because they thought it was better but their phones were losing out in showrooms to the larger Galaxy phones.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

addicted wrote: post #333
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm worried. My Pixel 4 will stop receiving updates later this year but the Pixel 6 is huge and the Pixel 7 looks huge too. Why are screens getting so big? So they can shove more ads?

Because that’s what people buy. Apple switched to a larger screen size not because they thought it was better but their phones were losing out in showrooms to the larger Galaxy phones.

> Because that’s what people buy.

Because that's what companies make. There are examples of smaller phones that were not successful, but they sucked for one reason or another.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #326
pooper wrote: post #315

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it is mostly so we can have bigger batteries. The iPhone SE has a tiny battery by today's standards.

Why does the battery size matter? Do we compare car fuel tank sizes? We typically care about how it affects our use of the product. How long can the iPhone SE last on a charge? How does it compare to other iPhones?

> Do we compare car fuel tank sizes?

I mean, we kinda do when it comes to EVs.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by 2-718-281-828 »

cercatrova wrote: post #73

The only problem with Asus phones in general, which is also apparent in their ROG phones, is the lack of updates. Their hardware is top-notch, literally; I've never seen faster phones. But, they don't update them consistently enough, unlike Google and Samsung which have pledged multiple years of software support through Android releases.

https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/#asus

ZenFone 8 is being supported. So, there's good chance that ZenFone 9 will be as well.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by spiffytech »

As a left-hander, I hope other manufacters don't move their fingerprint reader to the right edge of the device.

Maybe the button is placed okay for another finger to wrap around the device and reach it? That probably depends on how finicky the reader is.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by KevinGlass »

curiousgal wrote: post #202
cercatrova wrote: post #73

The only problem with Asus phones in general, which is also apparent in their ROG phones, is the lack of updates. Their hardware is top-notch, literally; I've never seen faster phones. But, they don't update them consistently enough, unlike Google and Samsung which have pledged multiple years of software support through Android releases.

Android 12 has me swearing off updating my phone honestly. It's backwards in every single way. I don't use my phone for anything critical so I am more than willing to trade security for usability.

Android 12 finally pushed me to iPhone after nearly 10 years on Android. I miss somethings but ultimately I'm glad I switched.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

spiffytech wrote: post #337

As a left-hander, I hope other manufacters don't move their fingerprint reader to the right edge of the device. Maybe the button is placed okay for another finger to wrap around the device and reach it? That probably depends on how finicky the reader is.

can't you just use index finger on the sensor?

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by aceazzameen »

fomine3 wrote: post #213
curiousgal wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Android 12 has me swearing off updating my phone honestly. It's backwards in every single way. I don't use my phone for anything critical so I am more than willing to trade security for usability.

While some people legitimately blame bloatware on Samsung Galaxy, Samsung's customized Android (OneUI) is good for this perspective. Google sometimes decides weird annoying changes for AOSP but Samsung sometimes just refuses the change and keep their OS sane. I previously liked pure AOSP, but finally I found that it's not the best Android distribution.

I'm in agreement with you. I no longer like Google's UX decisions in AOSP. It's got to the point where I dread finding out what they removed or buried under multiple taps. I have Android 12 on a galaxy tablet, and OneUI with Good Lock makes it sane.
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