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Kind of weird that the article considers that places closer to the west are more open to nudism. The west is prude?
> The west is prude? The anglosphere most certainly is. If you need convincing, just look at the pics in the article: not a single full frontal.
Prudishness gives us mental super powers so we can do things like the Industrial Revolution.
You think we could have made those steam engines if we were looking at nipples all day?!
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For most Americans it's impossible to understand naturism. In their world a nipple must be covered. But gore and violence is accepted. Luckily in Europe you still have many places where people have a different mindset.
Ummm, I can tell you straight away most people in Croatia don't like nudism or naked people walking around. There are places that allow that specifically - but if you walk around shirtless you'll likely get a fine. Croatia is very socially conservative, so I don't get these contrasts with America. We can't even legalise weed - I'd say largely due to religious connotations/pushback.
No, Croatia is not "very socially conservative". It is maybe a bit more conservative than typical EU state which is still way more progressive than American notion of "conservative" let alone "very conservative".
Then the thing is that places mentioned in the thread are not conservative at all. Coastal towns are not conservative.
I come from Split and I have never ever had any troubles or whatsoever of being shirtless. You know that we only have those fines because of uncultured tourists. Because they think they can enter museum or bank in their swimsuits.
Also there have always been undesignated nudist zones everywhere. There's one 20 minutes walk from Split downtown. On the islands, wherever urbanization stops, there could be naked people on the rocks of the shoreline. They just move a bit away, like 200-300m further from the last accessible beach in the area, and sun on the rocks. Every child that has spent more than 2-3 hours in a boat in Dalmatia was bound to see naked human genitalia up front or in the distance.
There are a few to more nude public nude beaches in the US... - Gunninson Beach in Sandy Hook, NJ - Haulover Beach in Northern Miami - Black's Beach in San Diego (anything goes there) I'm sure there are more! America isnt totally prudish!
Western mainland Europe is a lot less prudish than the US. In France you get shampoo ads that just casually show a boob, in the day time. And topless sunbathing is common around a lot of Europe.
>In France you get shampoo ads that just casually show a boob
If you have to show a breast to sell shampoo, there's something wrong with your culture.
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Don't you get sunburn though? When it's really hot I actually tend to cover up _more_ (with thinner, lighter clothing naturally).
Given that on a US beach you will see people 95%+ naked I don't see how the extra 5% makes a difference to getting burnt. Just follow Mary Schmich (and thus Baz Luhrmann)'s advise - Wear Sunscreen.
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Given that on a US beach you will see people 95%+ naked I don't see how the extra 5% makes a difference to getting burnt. Just follow Mary Schmich (and thus Baz Luhrmann)'s advise - Wear Sunscreen.
The recommendation is to use clothes, sunscreen is for the parts the clothes don't cover. At least for us swedes with sensitive skin from the long winters :-)
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shows that people often do not cover or have shade, as such I don't see any difference
What I always loved about Yugoslavia was the freedom. You couldn't criticize the party but everything else was free. I was 13, at 11am I watched TV and saw a music clip where the content was 2 people fucking and smiling while doing so. They were having fun. You could drive a light motorbike, no helm, no license. The food was natural. You could sleep anywhere without anyone bothering you or having to be afraid that so…
I hope we can have a civil disagreement on this, without personal resentments.
This is indeed freedom, and I don't approve of violent and repressive regimes to change people's behavior.
Yet, this is not positive from my point of view. Doing this makes me closer to animals, farther from human.
Humans have the freedom to live different from animals.
A tiger simply don't think whether the way it lives and kills prey is ethical. Humans can and do.
Animals don't have intimacy. They just do their stuff wherever they are.
Humans have the freedom to look for and build intimacy.
So, although what you described is indeed freedom, it's not the behavior I want for myself. I wouldn't promote it, because it goes against the direction I would be happy to see other humans moving. And I wouldn't like to live in places that go against it as well.
That's just my personal freedom of thinking and judging what I see, not that I'll negate it by forcing others to live my way.
There are a few to more nude public nude beaches in the US... - Gunninson Beach in Sandy Hook, NJ - Haulover Beach in Northern Miami - Black's Beach in San Diego (anything goes there) I'm sure there are more! America isnt totally prudish!
Western mainland Europe is a lot less prudish than the US. In France you get shampoo ads that just casually show a boob, in the day time. And topless sunbathing is common around a lot of Europe.
And frontal male nudity in childrens movies (Ronja Räubertochter): https://www.schnittberichte.com/www/SBs/4581/r41.jpg
