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+1, had to switch to another app for white noise to sleep at night after my discover weekly became exclusively color noise ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colors_of_noise )
That's hilarious, but also highlights a good point in our lack of control/observability into these algorithms
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This might possibly be true for the types of music you named. Try it with world music in general (e.g,. south asian or middle eastern music) and you'll come across severe limitations and suggestions that simply do not work. Spotify doesn't even still carry even half the catalog of music from some of these regions. It's suggestions in (western) classical also have left a lot to be desired.
which platform does this right though? YouTube is alright for Bollywood at least
For all the complexity... this is something Spotify has got right. I'm in my 40s, and I still listen to an incredible amount of new music. That is across everything from mainstream rock and pop, through to jazz, jungle, soul, techno, house, hip hop, classical... everything (though I tend to draw the line at screamcore). And in there last year a tiny unsigned band with 2 tracks and fewer than 900 listens (at the time)…
This might possibly be true for the types of music you named. Try it with world music in general (e.g,. south asian or middle eastern music) and you'll come across severe limitations and suggestions that simply do not work. Spotify doesn't even still carry even half the catalog of music from some of these regions. It's suggestions in (western) classical also have left a lot to be desired.
If Spotify could increase and sustain the catalogue then I'm pretty sure this would work. But it feels like the catalogue is smaller, churns more, and isn't as enriched in meta-data or listener behaviour to make it work yet. A network problem more than a technical one.
Spotify is still one of my top ways to discover music, but I needed even more. I’ve been spending a lot of time and money on discogs lately. I’ve found so much stuff you simply cannot find on the open web, Spotify, YouTube, etc.
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This might possibly be true for the types of music you named. Try it with world music in general (e.g,. south asian or middle eastern music) and you'll come across severe limitations and suggestions that simply do not work. Spotify doesn't even still carry even half the catalog of music from some of these regions. It's suggestions in (western) classical also have left a lot to be desired.
The reason I run my Plex is all the world music, classical, and frankly obscure music. If Spotify could increase and sustain the catalogue then I'm pretty sure this would work. But it feels like the catalogue is smaller, churns more, and isn't as enriched in meta-data or listener behaviour to make it work yet. A network problem more than a technical one.
Blogs, discogs and national radio actually work a lot better for me for discovery, simply because, as you say, Spotify may not even have the input data in order to then help me discover better music. Thing is, I'm not sure there is a desire (perhaps economically driven) to improve that catalogue as they would need to.
For all the complexity... this is something Spotify has got right. I'm in my 40s, and I still listen to an incredible amount of new music. That is across everything from mainstream rock and pop, through to jazz, jungle, soul, techno, house, hip hop, classical... everything (though I tend to draw the line at screamcore). And in there last year a tiny unsigned band with 2 tracks and fewer than 900 listens (at the time)…
This might possibly be true for the types of music you named. Try it with world music in general (e.g,. south asian or middle eastern music) and you'll come across severe limitations and suggestions that simply do not work. Spotify doesn't even still carry even half the catalog of music from some of these regions. It's suggestions in (western) classical also have left a lot to be desired.
And you can't rely on automatic classifications either. But then music providers don't give you proper info for the music they provide. It's a circular problem.
And then it's a social problem, too. You may want to listen to music that other people that listen to your music do... But then you might not want to do that.
It's a mess.
The amount of data Spotify has on user behavior must be awe-inducing. Not that I'm complaining, the Algorithm has shown me plenty of good music that I would have missed otherwise. Seeing the data analyzed like this and the results published publicly is pretty cool! I just wish sometimes there would be better ways to feed Spotify data on my preferences. I have a running playlist for example that I listen to over and o…
The amount of data Spotify has on user behavior must be awe-inducing. Not that I'm complaining, the Algorithm has shown me plenty of good music that I would have missed otherwise. Seeing the data analyzed like this and the results published publicly is pretty cool! I just wish sometimes there would be better ways to feed Spotify data on my preferences. I have a running playlist for example that I listen to over and o…
FYI you can mark sessions as private and the data won't flow into recommendations
For all the complexity... this is something Spotify has got right. I'm in my 40s, and I still listen to an incredible amount of new music. That is across everything from mainstream rock and pop, through to jazz, jungle, soul, techno, house, hip hop, classical... everything (though I tend to draw the line at screamcore). And in there last year a tiny unsigned band with 2 tracks and fewer than 900 listens (at the time)…
My experience is completely different. The weekly dynamic playlists are very poor (either completely the wrong genre or songs I regularly listen to in the case of the monday playlist). The daily playlists regularly play the same songs by an artist. It seems to me that spotify only uses the top 2 or 3 songs and nothing else. I'd say that of a specific genre it will play 40 to 50 songs and then repeat them.
Then a couple of years later half the new music I found is no longer on Spotify. I've largely given up on it.