Unrelated: I want physical keys on my phone, and ideally Android. I have used a BlackBerry Key2 for the last few years, but it could break and it is discontinued I think. Is there any alternative?
Asus Zenfone 9
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Re: Asus Zenfone 9
#262Earlier quoted context omitted.
When users are used to updates screwing them over generally, it's not a surprise that we start to find people who don't want to update and disregard the security entirely.
Users should probably buy devices from better venders. I certainly don’t worry about any negatives from an iOS update
>I certainly don’t worry about any negatives from an iOS update
Really? I always have issues after iOS upgrades, mostly related to iCloud. But I still update ASAP because as soon as a new iOS version is released, the old version causes even more iCloud problems. Apple and the whole iOS ecosystem just doesn't tolerate old versions (which is mostly a good thing but also has some downsides)
Re: Asus Zenfone 9
#263The only problem with Asus phones in general, which is also apparent in their ROG phones, is the lack of updates. Their hardware is top-notch, literally; I've never seen faster phones. But, they don't update them consistently enough, unlike Google and Samsung which have pledged multiple years of software support through Android releases.
Software updates are not always a good thing. For instance I have not updated my Samsung in years, because I know the pending update will take away call recording functionality.
Re: Asus Zenfone 9
#264A product marketing page that feels detailed and _honest_: this is something rarely seen in advertising material from big corporations. Kudos to Asus, not only for the phone, which, by the way, seems interesting. If only the various hardware subsystems were supported natively in mainline kernel (and open source apps), we'd live in a hacker's dream world.
Detailed and honest? How is this different from all the flashy usual marketing bullshit on a active scroll (or whatever that's called) webpage? Do they mention on that page that SD card support has been removed this year or is it something you have to deduce because CTRL+F 'sd' returns 0 results? Detailed and honest would be spec sheet, camera samples, couple of standardized benchmarks, basically a Kimovil.com descri…
> Do they mention on that page that SD card support has been removed this year
According to GSMArena, the Zenfone 8 did not have an SD slot either. [1]
Which is too bad, if Asus offered expandable storage on the Zenfone it would be the ideal phone for me.
Re: Asus Zenfone 9
#265A product marketing page that feels detailed and _honest_: this is something rarely seen in advertising material from big corporations. Kudos to Asus, not only for the phone, which, by the way, seems interesting. If only the various hardware subsystems were supported natively in mainline kernel (and open source apps), we'd live in a hacker's dream world.
It's taller than the iPhone SE (2022) and just as wide. It's mush bigger than the iPhone 12 Mini. There's nothing particularly compact about this phone.
https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Asus-Zenfone-9,Apple-...
Re: Asus Zenfone 9
#266Will buy this purely for the fact that it has the 3.5mm jack and a separate finger print sensor. Sensor placement on the side is perfect, I've long been searching for a successor for my trusty S10e
I like your eye for user-focused design. Apple has absolutely lost this game. The iPhone wants to be magic. I want mechanical joy.
I doubt there are many users who still want a headphone jack.
Re: Asus Zenfone 9
#267The only problem with Asus phones in general, which is also apparent in their ROG phones, is the lack of updates. Their hardware is top-notch, literally; I've never seen faster phones. But, they don't update them consistently enough, unlike Google and Samsung which have pledged multiple years of software support through Android releases.
What's stopping people from just running the, say, Google build of Android on this phone? If there is custom device drivers or whatever, can't they just be copied from the custom ASUS android over to the standard android build, while avoiding all the crapware and lack of updates?
Apps have started locking you out if they detect you have an unofficial build. Even dumb apps like McDonalds. Good luck using mandatory banking apps there as well.
Re: Asus Zenfone 9
#268It’s a bit funny to see 5.9” advertised as compact size given that just a decade ago the iPhone 5 had a sizeable 4” screen
iPhone 5 also had massive bezels that made if physically much bigger than its screen size implies.
Re: Asus Zenfone 9
#269Earlier quoted context omitted.
Pixel phones beginning with the Pixel 6 are guaranteed five years of updates at a minimum.
3 years of Android version updates and at least 5 years of security updates. But I have to say, Apple's OS version updates are not always quite what they seem. My 2 year old iPad gets OS updates in name only. None of the major new iPad OS features are supported. That's fine if the hardware just isn't capable of supporting those features. But it sort of muddies the water compared to an Android device that doesn't get…
All security issues are handled on iOS for many years. Yes, feature updates are gated by model because Apple wants to sell new stuff and the new features are a big driver of that.
GrapheneOS on Pixel is probably the best bet right now.
Re: Asus Zenfone 9
#270Earlier quoted context omitted.
3 years of Android version updates and at least 5 years of security updates. But I have to say, Apple's OS version updates are not always quite what they seem. My 2 year old iPad gets OS updates in name only. None of the major new iPad OS features are supported. That's fine if the hardware just isn't capable of supporting those features. But it sort of muddies the water compared to an Android device that doesn't get…
All security issues are handled on iOS for many years. Yes, feature updates are gated by model because Apple wants to sell new stuff and the new features are a big driver of that. GrapheneOS on Pixel is probably the best bet right now.
>All security issues are handled on iOS for many years.
Yes, absolutely. I didn't mean to imply anything else.
Google says Pixel 6 will get "at least 5 years" of security updates. We're going to have to wait and see if that's better or worse than what Apple does.