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Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by Beltalowda »

fomine3 wrote: post #117
zem wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yeah, if it was 5.5" i would have ordered one immediately! that's my ideal size for a phone

You'll found that iPhone 8 Plus (5.5 inch) is not for you. Screen diagonal inch is bad metrics. Let's check real outer dimensions.

My hands use the screen, and they're of a certain size. If the screen is too big, I can't use it with one hand. The iPhone SE (the original one) can be used with one hand; if they would convert the bezels to screen I wouldn't be able to. I can't use the new iPhone SE with one hand.

In short, I think it's a good metric.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by fauigerzigerk »

ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #206
sk0g wrote: post #198

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What Android phone gets OS updates for 6 years? Even 2-3 is quite good by Android standards.

Pixel phones beginning with the Pixel 6 are guaranteed five years of updates at a minimum.

3 years of Android version updates and at least 5 years of security updates.

But I have to say, Apple's OS version updates are not always quite what they seem. My 2 year old iPad gets OS updates in name only. None of the major new iPad OS features are supported.

That's fine if the hardware just isn't capable of supporting those features. But it sort of muddies the water compared to an Android device that doesn't get a nominal OS bump but still gets security updates and all the new features distributed through Google's Play services.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by diego_sandoval »

We've gotten to the point of peak absurdity where 5.9" is considered "ultra-compact".

I'm in the market for a new phone right now, and it's baffling how ridiculously big most phones are right now. I only use mine for instant messaging and browsing Hacker News. 5" is more than enough for that.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by flippinburgers »

cercatrova wrote: post #73

The only problem with Asus phones in general, which is also apparent in their ROG phones, is the lack of updates. Their hardware is top-notch, literally; I've never seen faster phones. But, they don't update them consistently enough, unlike Google and Samsung which have pledged multiple years of software support through Android releases.

Google keeps its phones up-to-date? I was under the impression that 3 years was the max with 2 being more likely.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by pas »

flippinburgers wrote: post #254
cercatrova wrote: post #73

The only problem with Asus phones in general, which is also apparent in their ROG phones, is the lack of updates. Their hardware is top-notch, literally; I've never seen faster phones. But, they don't update them consistently enough, unlike Google and Samsung which have pledged multiple years of software support through Android releases.

Google keeps its phones up-to-date? I was under the impression that 3 years was the max with 2 being more likely.

their pledge is "Pixel 6 and later Pixel phones will get [updates] for at least 5 years from when the device first became available on the Google Store in the US." where [update] is security and may include features, (and I guess even feature removals) etc.

https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/4457705?hl=en

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by LarsAlereon »

moonchrome wrote: post #239
Gigachad wrote: post #175

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That phone came out a year ago, it hasn’t even had time to prove it’s supported. Check back with us in 5 years.

It might be just me - but my phone battery degrades so significantly after 3 years that the phone isn't worth using anymore, so I'm not that bothered about not receiving updates past that window.

My 5 year old phone is still at 84% battery capacity. I set a charge limit to 80% unless I'm planning to be away from a charger for some time and set it to go to low battery mode at 40%, which discourages me from draining it too low. I wasn't even this careful for the first couple of years that I owned it, and I use the fast charge mode.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by dmantis »

moonchrome wrote: post #239
Gigachad wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That phone came out a year ago, it hasn’t even had time to prove it’s supported. Check back with us in 5 years.

It might be just me - but my phone battery degrades so significantly after 3 years that the phone isn't worth using anymore, so I'm not that bothered about not receiving updates past that window.

You can change the battery in most phones (there are plenty instructions on youtube how to open the case or do it with some service center), that's much cheaper than buying new phone.

On chinese marketplaces there are batteries for almost any phone, might be in your local marketplaces as well, depending on location.

The core problem is security updates.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by 28304283409234 »

judge2020 wrote: post #130
slimsag wrote: post #128

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When users are used to updates screwing them over generally, it's not a surprise that we start to find people who don't want to update and disregard the security entirely.

iOS doesn't seem to have this problem, reaching "89% of all devices introduced in the last four years use iOS 15"[0]. iOS generally is less at-risk for these botnet issues since any botnet needs to be actively embedded within a popular app-store-installed app, especially if it wants to run expensive background tasks hitting HTTP endpoints. To add, since apps can't JIT, the apps can't RCE a jailbreak that would allow…

That's because iPhone consumers are used to being screwed over.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by wildmanx »

diego_sandoval wrote: post #253

We've gotten to the point of peak absurdity where 5.9" is considered "ultra-compact". I'm in the market for a new phone right now, and it's baffling how ridiculously big most phones are right now. I only use mine for instant messaging and browsing Hacker News. 5" is more than enough for that.

Yeah, this is ridiculous. Notice how all the models on the page have big to giant hands?

One of my earliest smartphones was 4.2". That was already problematic for my hand. 5" is too large, 5.9" is out of question. I don't want a tablet for a phone. I want a phone that I can use with just one hand and still reach all corners of the screen comfortably with my thumb from a firm grip (i.e. not from the side, but with the bottom right corner firmly tucked in the palm of my hand, if that makes sense). And my hands are not even small.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by [deleted] »

moonchrome wrote: post #239
Gigachad wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That phone came out a year ago, it hasn’t even had time to prove it’s supported. Check back with us in 5 years.

It might be just me - but my phone battery degrades so significantly after 3 years that the phone isn't worth using anymore, so I'm not that bothered about not receiving updates past that window.

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