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Applying the hacker / engineering mindset to Spirituality

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Re: Applying the hacker / engineering mindset to Spirituality

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Post by DocTomoe »

> I would like to share my discoveries , but not sure how yet.

Having gone down a similar path (but more oriented towards a weird mix of Shamanic, Daoist and Zen ideas, with some Hindu aspects mixed in), I think it is nice to exchange ideas - but learning/understanding comes from within the individual.

Do not be discouraged when your efforts in sharing are not immediately met with recognition and/or applause (in fact: if it comes, it comes, if it doesn't, that is ok as well), and be prepared that some may not want to hear about them (and - given how regrettably spirituality has been abused in the general population - lash out either against the concept as a whole, or about your specific variety as it disagrees with theirs).

I'm looking forward to read about your insights.

Re: Applying the hacker / engineering mindset to Spirituality

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Post by e9 »

resatori wrote: post #9
e9 wrote: post #7

It's hard. HN specifically doesn't respond well to it. I'll give you concrete example: I once tried making a comment and mentioned 'universe rewards creativity', that got downvoted pretty hard, even though as engineering mind you should consider stuff like: - solving a problem in a smart way and get cred/promotion/recognition - asking out/getting attention of a girl/boy you like - paying for clothes you think is cool…

Yeah, there are certain superstitions. The words have to be chosen carefully for the audience. 'Universe' is just too ... 'universal' of a word to make any sense of meaning of it. A better approach may be just to offer practical tools how to increase our potential for creativity... things we can actually try and do. It is a reward in itself.

You are right

Re: Applying the hacker / engineering mindset to Spirituality

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Post by travisjungroth »

Since you want to share your discoveries I suggest you get as good as you can at writing. The only things I know that have a strong impact on that are reading critically, writing, editing and getting feedback on your writing.

To point at this post, I have a hard time following it. I don't see what the title has to do with any of it besides you being a software engineer. The lessons came from the dog shelter, not engineering. Then the issue (you want to share your discoveries but don't know how) is something engineers are notoriously not good at.

You could also choose any medium besides writing. Coaching, podcasts, videos, etc.

Re: Applying the hacker / engineering mindset to Spirituality

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Post by resatori »

DocTomoe wrote: post #11

> I would like to share my discoveries , but not sure how yet. Having gone down a similar path (but more oriented towards a weird mix of Shamanic, Daoist and Zen ideas, with some Hindu aspects mixed in), I think it is nice to exchange ideas - but learning/understanding comes from within the individual. Do not be discouraged when your efforts in sharing are not immediately met with recognition and/or applause (in fact…

Exactly, it depends fully on the individual. We are all completely unique and need a different approach (which each person needs to find on their own).

So everything whats out there is _bullshit_ ! :) It does __not__ work!!

Nobody wants to hear about it. What we do need to do is listen. We are all each others teachers.

Re: Applying the hacker / engineering mindset to Spirituality

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Post by DocTomoe »

travisjungroth wrote: post #13

Since you want to share your discoveries I suggest you get as good as you can at writing. The only things I know that have a strong impact on that are reading critically, writing, editing and getting feedback on your writing. To point at this post, I have a hard time following it. I don't see what the title has to do with any of it besides you being a software engineer. The lessons came from the dog shelter, not engi…

Just a friendly interjection:

"hacker" does not necessarily imply "software engineering" or even "engineering". Especially us old-school folks understand "hacking" more as "curious, out-of-the-box thinking and exploring", which may just as well relate to engineering as it may relate to social interactions or cooking the perfect cup of coffee.

Re: Applying the hacker / engineering mindset to Spirituality

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Post by kozikow »

There is strong evidence out there that some spiritual things are real, more than just being a placebo/make-believe. There is something else going on, contrary to the accepted belief that the brain is a biological computer.

https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/ is one of a few places that applies scientific method (pretty much hacker/engineering mindset) to such phenomena. Maybe get in touch with such places?

Re: Applying the hacker / engineering mindset to Spirituality

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Post by resatori »

kozikow wrote: post #17

There is strong evidence out there that some spiritual things are real, more than just being a placebo/make-believe. There is something else going on, contrary to the accepted belief that the brain is a biological computer. https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/ is one of a few places that applies scientific method (pretty much hacker/engineering mindset) to such phenomena. Maybe get in touch with such places?

The thing is, we need to see our own evidence. Feel it ourself. All this scientific research is useless without our own experience.
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