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Asus Zenfone 9

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Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by SahAssar »

thangalin wrote: post #31
donkarma wrote: post #5

why is there no small android phone

Sony Xperia Z3 Compact is 4.6", but super brittle. The Huawei P10 is 5.1" and has a case that makes it a tank. The SOYES XS12 Cell Phone is 3.0", if you need smaller. Have you searched using GSMArena's phone finder? https://www.gsmarena.com/ https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nHeightMax=135&nDispla...

The Sony Xperia Z3 Compact is from 2014 and tops out at android 6. The Huawei Huawei P10 Lite is from 2017 and tops out at android 8 (9 for the non-Lite). I hadn't heard of the SOYES XS11, but it looks like it does not support 4g (and 3g support is being shut down by various operators), and tops out at android 6.

So for current small android phones I'm guessing the unihertz Jelly 2 is one of the few remaining.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by kbhn »

jfoster wrote: post #200
simfoo wrote: post #173

Will buy this purely for the fact that it has the 3.5mm jack and a separate finger print sensor. Sensor placement on the side is perfect, I've long been searching for a successor for my trusty S10e

I have an S10e as well and the placement & responsiveness of the fingerprint sensor on it is absolutely perfect. Can't believe that subsequent models didn't retain it. I also want to upgrade, but it's difficult to pick which phones will have equally good fingerprint reading. Also hoping for eSIM support, in case anyone has suggestions.

I went from an S10 to an S22 Ultra and the fingerprint reader is leagues better.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by niclo »

column wrote: post #208
muxator wrote: post #3

A product marketing page that feels detailed and _honest_: this is something rarely seen in advertising material from big corporations. Kudos to Asus, not only for the phone, which, by the way, seems interesting. If only the various hardware subsystems were supported natively in mainline kernel (and open source apps), we'd live in a hacker's dream world.

Detailed and honest? How is this different from all the flashy usual marketing bullshit on a active scroll (or whatever that's called) webpage? Do they mention on that page that SD card support has been removed this year or is it something you have to deduce because CTRL+F 'sd' returns 0 results? Detailed and honest would be spec sheet, camera samples, couple of standardized benchmarks, basically a Kimovil.com descri…

Most of what you ask is easily available simply browsing the webpage though.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by fuzzy2 »

pjerem wrote: post #219
cercatrova wrote: post #73

The only problem with Asus phones in general, which is also apparent in their ROG phones, is the lack of updates. Their hardware is top-notch, literally; I've never seen faster phones. But, they don't update them consistently enough, unlike Google and Samsung which have pledged multiple years of software support through Android releases.

It’s sad that no phone maker is playing the open and standard platform game. A brand like Asus would have everything to win with this : they already are recognized as a « geek » brand, they could ship updates with no effort and they could get free marketing from the word to mouth of the « geek of the family ». Instead of that, like any other Android manufacturer in the market, they ship great hardware with shitty or…

Critical phone components (or rather, their drivers and/or firmware) are not open however. I would like a platform with x86-level standardization but competitive power efficiency a lot. I don’t see it happening though. It’s not down to the phone makers, but to the component suppliers—like Qualcomm.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by saiya-jin »

sk0g wrote: post #198
Gigachad wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That phone came out a year ago, it hasn’t even had time to prove it’s supported. Check back with us in 5 years.

What Android phone gets OS updates for 6 years? Even 2-3 is quite good by Android standards.

Pixel 6 and Samsung S22, both 5 years of updates

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by phasersout »

pjerem wrote: post #219
cercatrova wrote: post #73

The only problem with Asus phones in general, which is also apparent in their ROG phones, is the lack of updates. Their hardware is top-notch, literally; I've never seen faster phones. But, they don't update them consistently enough, unlike Google and Samsung which have pledged multiple years of software support through Android releases.

It’s sad that no phone maker is playing the open and standard platform game. A brand like Asus would have everything to win with this : they already are recognized as a « geek » brand, they could ship updates with no effort and they could get free marketing from the word to mouth of the « geek of the family ». Instead of that, like any other Android manufacturer in the market, they ship great hardware with shitty or…

Android manufacturers, unlike Apple, don't really earn much via the software - so there is really no reason for costly updates which keeps the customers from buying the next phone..

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by SahAssar »

silisili wrote: post #123
donkarma wrote: post #5

why is there no small android phone

Not sure where it is sold or what countries it works in, but remember seeing a couple reviews on this one that were actually pretty positive. https://www.gsmarena.com/balmuda_phone_unveiled_with_49_disp...

That was discontinued after just under two months due to poor reviews and some sort of regulatory issue in japan.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by krit_dms »

f1refly wrote: post #149

I just gave up a few weeks ago and bought a pixel 6, but this phone might make me rethink that decision. It's smallish and has a 3,5mm jack? That's as close to my ideal phone as it's going to get in 2022!

Exactly in the same boat. Did a thorough research of the entire market, and pixel 6 seemed like the least problematic choice - so I got it three weeks ago.

Are you happy with the p6 so far?

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by yakak »

yewenjie wrote: post #158
googlryas wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's stopping people from just running the, say, Google build of Android on this phone? If there is custom device drivers or whatever, can't they just be copied from the custom ASUS android over to the standard android build, while avoiding all the crapware and lack of updates?

Nothing. People do that all the time - there is a huge community for aftermarket custom ROMs at places like xda-developers. However, I would guess that is like less than 1% of users since custom ROMs a) are not popular b) require some courage and technical knowledge c) often void the official warranty.

D) Are highly unlikely to support relocking for new keys in secure boot, or are limited to a very small number of models.

The attacks sold to governments fighting such evils as journalists and pro-democracy youth haven't yet been shown to include persistency across reboots, AFAIK, but relatively small percentages of politically active people using insecure boot could encourage them to build those features to more passively monitor a sub-sample as it is relatively easy and makes their work less detectable.

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