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Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by vxNsr »

patchtopic wrote: post #74

I have an ASUS zenfone "max pro m2" I got for my wife. The stock android it came with had some annoying rough edges compared to a google pixel. This is in terms of the audio levels for apps and notifications, basic user level experience stuff, not advanced nerd stuff. She moved to a google pixel and was much happier. I installed LineageOS on the ASUS and it's been great with this "upgrade" I'm hoping they put more ef…

The fact that google so blatantly creates a better version of android that’s reserved for pixel kinda shows how bad the android ecosystem is.

It used to be that people really wanted stock android, now because google spends so many resources (i.e. UI/UX devs) on The Pixel Experience(tm) stock android has slowly become less user friendly and requires significant changes from the OEM partners to get it to a usable state. And of course those changes are not OSS and don’t contribute back to the original code. Plus it further fractures the whole ecosystem.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

leeoniya wrote: post #161
jaimex2 wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How good is the Lineage OS support on Asus phones? Do they lock it down including the camera modules or are they fairly open?

typically LineageOS uses the stock binary blobs for cameras, too many trade secrets for Qualcomm, Sony, Samsung etc. to release them as open source. you can bootloader/oem unlock zenphones, though that might wipe DRM keys.

Some phones require extra firmware to get good quality out of the camera that are protected with keys that get wiped when unlocking the bootloader, which is probably what was meant.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by xbar »

simfoo wrote: post #173

Will buy this purely for the fact that it has the 3.5mm jack and a separate finger print sensor. Sensor placement on the side is perfect, I've long been searching for a successor for my trusty S10e

I like your eye for user-focused design.

Apple has absolutely lost this game. The iPhone wants to be magic. I want mechanical joy.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by MichaelBurge »

cercatrova wrote: post #73

The only problem with Asus phones in general, which is also apparent in their ROG phones, is the lack of updates. Their hardware is top-notch, literally; I've never seen faster phones. But, they don't update them consistently enough, unlike Google and Samsung which have pledged multiple years of software support through Android releases.

In general, shouldn't the importance of updates depend on what it originally shipped with?

If it isn't buggy and the shipped features match the marketing, why would it ever need to be updated?

So it seems like any argument like "Vendor never updates it" needs to be paired with an argument that they ship buggy or incomplete software.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

wvenable wrote: post #139
codegladiator wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I want to ignore them also. I know the people who want to snoop in can snoop in irrespective. Its just a matter of how easy it is. Every update is just more trackers and ads.

You have Samsung device and it's just not true at all that updates add more trackers and ads.

I don't know whether it's correlated with updates, but that's a thing that has happened: https://slashdot.org/story/20/07/01/196224/ads-are-taking-ov...

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by colordrops »

kyriakos wrote: post #127
colordrops wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm staying on my OnePlus 7 Pro until another true full screen phone comes out. Oh, and whatever it is also has to support loading a google-free OS, such as with MicroG or Graphene.

On the same boat with oneplus 7 pro. Every phone I see with a hole on the screen looks like a downgrade to me. Battery life went very bad unfortunately after so many years.

I've been lucky with the battery life for some reason. Still usually lasts through the day for me, even after 3 years.

I think OnePlus only charges like $20 to replace it...

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by kyriakos »

colordrops wrote: post #187
kyriakos wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the same boat with oneplus 7 pro. Every phone I see with a hole on the screen looks like a downgrade to me. Battery life went very bad unfortunately after so many years.

I've been lucky with the battery life for some reason. Still usually lasts through the day for me, even after 3 years. I think OnePlus only charges like $20 to replace it...

thanks for the tip. I'll have it replaced cause other than battery life i have zero complaints with this phone. I was even worried originally because the front camera is a "moving part" but even that seems to have outlasted my expectations.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by rjzzleep »

cercatrova wrote: post #73

The only problem with Asus phones in general, which is also apparent in their ROG phones, is the lack of updates. Their hardware is top-notch, literally; I've never seen faster phones. But, they don't update them consistently enough, unlike Google and Samsung which have pledged multiple years of software support through Android releases.

Before Xiaomi became mainstream they were quite supportive of the dev community. For example they sent a bunch of Poco phones to XDA developers before release.

I feel like Asus would do so much better if they opened up the ecosystem a bit.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by wvenable »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #186
wvenable wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have Samsung device and it's just not true at all that updates add more trackers and ads.

I don't know whether it's correlated with updates, but that's a thing that has happened: https://slashdot.org/story/20/07/01/196224/ads-are-taking-ov...

It's not correlated with updates.

Ironically Samsung Health used to have a little "Ad" banner at the top but after some update that is gone now.

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