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Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by zamalek »

paisawalla wrote: post #25
VectorLock wrote: post #18

On a scale of Samsung to Google, how bad does Asus load up their Android with crapware?

Who is on which end of that crapware spectrum? And what is the crapware? Asking as someone who's only had a Pixel, or iPhone before that.

Google is no crapware, Samsung is as much crapware as possible.

Samsung has their own version of every built-in app. Text messages for example, they have a much shittier version of "Messages" (no RCS support at least a few months ago). Their apps get set back to default randomly. Photos/Gallery, email, web browser, you name it.

They then have other junk installed. Their own app store, their own voice assistant, and other useless/niche apps.

You are blocked from uninstalling any of it.

It is the scourge of Android. "Android One" was an effort by Google to curb it, but I think only Motorola signed up (in addition to Google, obviously). OnePlus started on the premise of a clean/stock experience, but have started losing their way (rather rapidly). "Nothing" is a new manufacturer aiming for a stock experience. Asus seems to be doing stock.

If you ever consider moving away from Pixel I strongly recommend prioritizing a stock experience over _anything_ else. Crapware is maddening, full of bugs, and likely full of vulnerabilities.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

#42

Post by Pasorrijer »

paisawalla wrote: post #25
VectorLock wrote: post #18

On a scale of Samsung to Google, how bad does Asus load up their Android with crapware?

Who is on which end of that crapware spectrum? And what is the crapware? Asking as someone who's only had a Pixel, or iPhone before that.

Sony is also very close to stock. They keep stock for most of the important apps, and only have their own apps for things like the camera.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

#43

Post by colordrops »

frostburg wrote: post #14

I have a Zenfone 8 Flip because it's basically the only good phone without a punch-hole display or a notch (those really annoy me) except the Sony ones that are grey market only here. I suspect that Asus won't make a motorized camera version of this one, sadly (maybe behind-the-screen front cameras will solve the issue... I would just buy a phone without a front camera, I never use it).

I'm staying on my OnePlus 7 Pro until another true full screen phone comes out.

Oh, and whatever it is also has to support loading a google-free OS, such as with MicroG or Graphene.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

#44

Post by booi »

zamalek wrote: post #41
paisawalla wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who is on which end of that crapware spectrum? And what is the crapware? Asking as someone who's only had a Pixel, or iPhone before that.

Google is no crapware, Samsung is as much crapware as possible. Samsung has their own version of every built-in app. Text messages for example, they have a much shittier version of "Messages" (no RCS support at least a few months ago). Their apps get set back to default randomly. Photos/Gallery, email, web browser, you name it. They then have other junk installed. Their own app store, their own voice assistant, and o…

Ah, you assumed Android One was the name when it's actually just the number of companies who want less crapware.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by nitinreddy88 »

kadoban wrote: post #34

Been looking for phones recently. The Asus ones looked actually quite good, the only reason I ruled them out (other than price) is they guarantee a pretty low number of updates. I can't find how many they say for this one, but I'd watch out for that.

They ship stock Android. It depends on Android update support by Google

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

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Post by naikrovek »

Vxbrown wrote: post #24
don-code wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For what it's worth, I use a Zenfone 8 and regularly get 2-3 days of battery life off it. I came from older, sanely-sized HTC phones, and am actually pretty happy with it - I was lucky to get a day off any of the prior three HTC phones (Sensation, M8, 10) that I had.

Won't be upgrading until a New removable battery phone is made.

There are lots of removable battery phones, they just aren’t flagship phones. They’re the phones you find on shelves at retailers and that cost $100 or less. They all have headphone jacks, too. And _awful_ displays.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

#48

Post by tootie »

enragedcacti wrote: post #6

One thing that's really cool but that isn't clear from the copy (or maybe I just missed it) is that the image stabilization is actually moving the entire camera assembly rather than just the optics or just the sensor. I'm excited to see if this results in better low-light and video performance than previous techniques. https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/28/23280728/asus-zenfone-9-s...

It's a neat trick but in the last 2 years that I've had a low light camera, I haven't used it once.

Re: Asus Zenfone 9

#49

Post by graderjs »

CarVac wrote: post #33
enragedcacti wrote: post #6

One thing that's really cool but that isn't clear from the copy (or maybe I just missed it) is that the image stabilization is actually moving the entire camera assembly rather than just the optics or just the sensor. I'm excited to see if this results in better low-light and video performance than previous techniques. https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/28/23280728/asus-zenfone-9-s...

If it pivots the whole camera assembly, that should reduce the "wobbly corners" effect.

Watch the video on the page, it shows it happening. Looks cool :)
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