Live data from Hacker News

Retool raises $45M at a $3.2B valuation

techcrunch.com

41–50 of 153 posts

Re: Retool raises $45M at a $3.2B valuation

#41
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We actually didn't need the money (we're cashflow-positive). In fact, we haven't touched the money from our Series B (in 2020) nor our Series C (in 2021). But raising money is helpful because a) it gets prospective customers interested in the product (oh, X company raised, let me check out what their product does), b) it gets prospective employees interested, c) it allows people externally to see that the company is…

> TBH, fundraising is kind of like charades: it's a way to signal you are doing well, without telling people your private company metrics. I hate that this is the answer. Edit, for clarification. I don't hate that this is Retool's answer , I hate that this is how the world actually works.

Welcome to the real world

Re: Retool raises $45M at a $3.2B valuation

#42
post #12
post #7

Congrats on the round! I've always been interested in Retool, but have a baseline requirement of any tool syncing back to Git. Is there a reason you don't allow that in the SaaS version?

We probably should support that. What's happened is we initially built the feature for an on-prem customer and never bother supporting that for the cloud version (since anybody who wanted it would just use the on-prem version). Let me follow up with the team now and see how much work it would be to bring it to cloud. Thank you for the feedback!

Seconded -- we're using the cloud version and I absolutely wish I could version control changes.

Re: Retool raises $45M at a $3.2B valuation

#43

So a company that produces something which “RAD” tools have tried to do since approx 1990 is valued at how much again? Read a product description from a RAD environment such as Delphi or VBA or a 4GL like Rational and you will find almost the same language. I would not touch this with a ten foot pole; it’s a massive lock in / walled garden.

If you used a RAD tool in the 1990s you know what a rich and underserved market that continues to be.

SMB need little more than this. They could run for decades.

Re: Retool raises $45M at a $3.2B valuation

#44
post #6
post #5

Congratulations. We just turned on Metabase but did not try out Retool. Can you talk through the pros/cons of the two?

Metabase is great! I was using it 4 - 5 years ago and it was shocking how good it was as OSS. It depends on your use case: Metabase is designed for BI (i.e. reading large amounts of data and chating it); Retool is designed for apps that write back to databases / APIs. Metabase (TBH) is better at charting (they have nicer charts, better caching, etc.). But it doesn't support writing back to APIs or databases. For exam…

Appreciate the honesty - speaks volumes about you and the company.

We're very much solving for the BI usecase right now but as we start staffing up the ops part of our company, we're not going to be able to build all those internal tools ourselves. Looks like Retool would step in there nicely.

Re: Retool raises $45M at a $3.2B valuation

#45
post #4
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Congrats on the funding and evaluation! At first, I was admittedly skeptical of yet another low code tool, but this seems pretty powerful. I think there is a large segment of the market that needs a drag and drop Visual Studio editor to build simple data workflows. Do you manage the underlying database for the customers, or are they connecting their own managed data stores? What are the most common use cases that you…

Yes, that is our target market too. We don't think people will be building airbnb.com (say) in Retool, but not all software is like that. (In fact, we think most software is probably just CRUD apps, haha.) We don't manage the database for customers; we instead connect to your data (whether it's behind an API or database). That was one of the first decisions we made — as a developer, if my data is already in postgres,…

> if you have (say) 1M orders a day, you aren't able to put that data in Salesforce anymore

Could you clarify in what way you can't put 1M orders a day into Salesforce?

Re: Retool raises $45M at a $3.2B valuation

#46

As someone on the product side I am getting more bullish each day on low-code tooling as it gets increasingly hard to source and retain engineering talent. Whist it might comes with downsides and limitations I think the positives in terms of time-to-market and cost outweigh these on balance for many types of needs (not all for sure). Congrats.

Bingo. The surface level value prop of these tools are: enable your ops staff to create/manage biz processes. The underlying value prop is: don't spend expensive dev time creating internal tools.

Re: Retool raises $45M at a $3.2B valuation

#47
post #43

So a company that produces something which “RAD” tools have tried to do since approx 1990 is valued at how much again? Read a product description from a RAD environment such as Delphi or VBA or a 4GL like Rational and you will find almost the same language. I would not touch this with a ten foot pole; it’s a massive lock in / walled garden.

If you used a RAD tool in the 1990s you know what a rich and underserved market that continues to be. SMB need little more than this. They could run for decades.

Agreed! This is why I love retool - it's like all those great things that OP mentioned but re-geared for a web-first world.

Having said that, the commercial model of Retool doesn't work for my use-case so I use Appsmith now which is also incredible!

Re: Retool raises $45M at a $3.2B valuation

#48
post #2

Hi all, founder @ Retool here. We've made a lot of progress over the past few years, but we first started on HN, and certainly wouldn't be here without all of you! For example, here's when we launched: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14515494 . Hilariously, we described Retool as "Excel with higher order primitives", and people understood it! (Only on HN!) After that, we spent around a year polishing the product…

Just to say that we're actively switching away from retool because you insist on charging £10 a month users who are a simply view form thats already built. I can understand charging for building and launching a form, I can understand charging something for a view only, but the same as builder? na I think not. Good luck with your pricing

A long time ago, I was at their offices and I asked them about this. If this is a limiter for you, I'm sure you could get a customized pricing plan from them if you reach out.

I believe AppSmith is a FOSS alternative, otherwise.

Re: Retool raises $45M at a $3.2B valuation

#49

As someone on the product side I am getting more bullish each day on low-code tooling as it gets increasingly hard to source and retain engineering talent. Whist it might comes with downsides and limitations I think the positives in terms of time-to-market and cost outweigh these on balance for many types of needs (not all for sure). Congrats.

As a pragmatic software engineer: same. The code by default era can’t end soon enough, we shouldn’t be carrying the burden of our own inferior versions of things that already exist. A decade from now we will look back on the amount of code written now as a puzzling artifact of the past. Code when a ceiling has been reached with existing tools is the future — a ceiling which is getting higher and higher, thanks to Ret…

Indeed. I'd rather put my energy into solving unique business problems, rather than wiring up another standard table, form, or chart.

Re: Retool raises $45M at a $3.2B valuation

#50

I dont understand how an apparently billion dollar company still requires to raise 45 million. Can someone ELI5 the economics of this?

its advertising, and access to a network

and the people that bought in wanted some exposure, like really wanted some exposure

Post reply on HN