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Some car companies charge extra if you don’t want your vehicle in white/black/silver. I heard that Tesla charges $2k extra if you want a red Tesla. I think most are closer to $1k, which is still a pretty hefty charge for a purely aesthetic option.

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I'm a man and I like colors. I have a red car, red shoes and colorful jackets. None of them are especially remarkable, they just have colors on them. I get remarks from colleagues about my shoes, I get remarks from random people on the street about my jacket. These people don't tend to be very positive about it, yet they feel the need to say something about my appearance, because I wear colorful stuff. I feel like pa…

> These people don't tend to be very positive about it, yet they feel the need to say something about my appearance, because I wear colorful stuff. I'm a man and I've recently started wearing a lot of "Hawaiian" shirts (loud, colorful prints) and I get a lot of compliments on the street. Not sure if it's about the color or about wearing something that reads as a "party" shirt, though.

if you dress a way that you are not, people will get mad, and if you do, they are happy.

this thread wasn't talking about fashion choices anyway. the reason for this is totally uninteresting. we're seeing the circumstances of assets like cars and houses being sold to future people and surviving, and the ones that future people by have less of the prior owner's personality to them.

why are new houses so boxy and drab? consider that the brutalist VA building in Chicago and federal building in boston are equally as historically important, if not more so, than your average twee little crumbling victorian in san francisco. but hey, you can demolish the "ugly" buildings and critically, do something fuck all different with the land, than those absolutely destitute sticks buildings. i don't think the economic stories are interesting.

Re: Has the world become less colourful?

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I'm a man and I like colors. I have a red car, red shoes and colorful jackets. None of them are especially remarkable, they just have colors on them. I get remarks from colleagues about my shoes, I get remarks from random people on the street about my jacket. These people don't tend to be very positive about it, yet they feel the need to say something about my appearance, because I wear colorful stuff. I feel like pa…

I noticed that my friends could always find me at the ski resort because I wore an orange ski cap.

One day there was a case of mistaken identity when there was one other person at the resort with an orange cap.

Not neon pink or anything. Just regular 70s orange.

Re: Has the world become less colourful?

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post #89

I'm a man and I like colors. I have a red car, red shoes and colorful jackets. None of them are especially remarkable, they just have colors on them. I get remarks from colleagues about my shoes, I get remarks from random people on the street about my jacket. These people don't tend to be very positive about it, yet they feel the need to say something about my appearance, because I wear colorful stuff. I feel like pa…

People are afraid to stand out? Where I'm from, USA, it's popular to dye your hair bright colors and to get tattoos

Re: Has the world become less colourful?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> re-emission in valance holes Are you talking about single-colour LEDs? Since white LEDs use a "phosphor", just like fluorescent lights, that convert blue or UV light. In fact I thought that the phosphors used by LEDs today are much better than those used by fluorescent lights. Maybe you're talking about RGB lights, which combine separate reg, green and blue LEDs so that the colour mix can be changed. But even then…

> white LEDs use a "phosphor", just like fluorescent lights Wow. I didn't know that. So I guess the junction actually emits UV which is converted to visible spectrum? Does that mean they're bad for your eyes if some UV leaks out? How I thought it worked is that different doping materials are blended in the junction to get a mix of frequencies. Maybe that's impossible. And yes, sure for RGB clusters the spacing is obv…

> So I guess the junction actually emits UV which is converted to visible spectrum?

The junction usually emits violet, but some blue ones exist too.

It's wasteful to emit UV. Fluorescent lights do it because it's not practical to tune them into visible light, but leds do not share that problem.

Re: Has the world become less colourful?

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Colour is not driven by fashion directly. There is always a technical innovation or regulatory change. The Ford Focus pioneered a new 'silver' paint that was formulated differently to 'silver' paints that had gone on before. 'Silver' was no longer an expensive option, the base model had it. This proved popular and the trend was set, silver cars took over at the start of the century, using the new formula paint. An ex…

> We might have got rid of the lead, but cadmium? Cobalt?

Last time I brought an oil palette and looked at the paints composition, the most toxic thing I could find was copper. And it was as colorful as any oil palette.

Re: Has the world become less colourful?

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Colors are trending towards the "may need to sell this kitchen/home/car/thing in the future, so I want to go with a non-offensive, maximally inclusive color for my potential buyers." If you paint your house hot pink, you're probably not concerned about resale value for a long while.

I feel you've got the thrust of it. I see our manufacturing and boom of middle class ownership starting off with wild color choices only to then find out that it makes resale harder. Every house resold in my neighborhood paints the brick house white. Also color fades more noticeably adding to upkeep cost. This is my two cents.

People also move a lot more than they used to. That could be part of it. Who gives a shit if anyone else likes the kitchen color scheme that you love, if you're going to be in the house 20+ years? If you're only going to be in it 3-5 years, though....

Re: Has the world become less colourful?

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post #141

Colors are trending towards the "may need to sell this kitchen/home/car/thing in the future, so I want to go with a non-offensive, maximally inclusive color for my potential buyers." If you paint your house hot pink, you're probably not concerned about resale value for a long while.

Even with that aspect, the consensus of what is considered neutral non-offensive household colors has changed from a warm brown palette (off-white walls, brown wood floor or tan carpet, wood or off-white cabinets) to a cool grey palette. That is a big shift. In the 90's or earlier painting a room grey would have been considered an opinionated decision that might turn off potential buyers.

Re: Has the world become less colourful?

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Quite a few just so stories in here - I mostly disagree with most in favor of my own:

We shed our colors because we lost the emotions expressed by those colors in our lexicon. We don’t put joy, awe, wonder, or whimsy on display. Those emotions aren’t just gone from our palette (walls, furniture, consumer products, cars, fridges), they are non-existent in and of themselves in society at large. Our Art is outrage, performative or otherwise. News is outrage. Media is outrage. Popular culture is outrage. If you aren’t outraged yourself, you are part of the problem (needs more (out)rage).

We will return to playful objects, playful colors and forms when it is once again permissible to express playfulness. We will return to joyous colors that express joy for joy’s sake when we have joy to express… see also the revival of mid-century modern as an implicit revival of the optimism of the 50s.

Re: Has the world become less colourful?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> These people don't tend to be very positive about it, yet they feel the need to say something about my appearance, because I wear colorful stuff. I'm a man and I've recently started wearing a lot of "Hawaiian" shirts (loud, colorful prints) and I get a lot of compliments on the street. Not sure if it's about the color or about wearing something that reads as a "party" shirt, though.

if you dress a way that you are not, people will get mad, and if you do, they are happy. this thread wasn't talking about fashion choices anyway. the reason for this is totally uninteresting. we're seeing the circumstances of assets like cars and houses being sold to future people and surviving, and the ones that future people by have less of the prior owner's personality to them. why are new houses so boxy and drab?…

The absolute destitute sticks buildings stay up out of some perverse mixture of house-as-investment (instead of land-as-investment), American house building culture, the state of construction in this country, and a really misplaced desire for “historical” preservation of “neighborhood character”.

The Victorian houses are nice but they all need to go.

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