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Re: Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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Post by tarsinge » Thu, Jul 28, 2022, 6:33 AM UTC

lotsofpulp wrote: post #350

eruleman wrote: post #347

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A text-based internet is mostly a relic of low broadband penetration. Video is more engaging than text for most people.

Boggles my mind how. Unless it is an arts and crafts or mechanical or some other hands on video, it is so inefficient to watch someone talk rather than just read the transcript.

TikTok and IG are mostly for entertainment not for learning, not sure how efficiency apply. Also we are talking about an instant stream of short clips, not old school YT where launching a video requires clicking and waiting.

Re: Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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Post by Glawen » Thu, Jul 28, 2022, 6:55 AM UTC

t_mann wrote: post #269

edm0nd wrote: post #199

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Likely waiting on stolen metaverse R&D from American companies given to them from the Chinese government. That's the entire Chinese nation-state backed hackers MO. Steal R&D from Fortune 500 companies to then give it to private Chinese businesses to further the Chinese economy. Why waste your own time/money/resources on R&D when you can just steal it. Same with IP and IP laws. - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chinese-h…

Copying is a great source of innovation and industrial development. Take German engineering ('Made in Germany' was a label originally intended to make the German copycats more visible in England, from where the processes were copied, but that sort of backfired in hindsight), the Swiss watch and pharma industries (based on French patents that were practically unenforceable in Switzerland at the time)... Once you have…

That depends, look at the Soviet Union, they bought Fiat 124 assembly line and they produced the car with just minor tweaks until 2010 (lada 2105). They made the great Lada Niva and produced also unchanged until 2010.

Improving thing is not a given and not in every culture. It is a trait of the western culture for sure, but not necessarily shared in the world.

Re: Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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Post by Banana699 » Thu, Jul 28, 2022, 6:59 AM UTC

t0bia_s wrote: post #355

orangepurple wrote: post #327

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Wait until Europeans find out all of their bank data is analyzed in the Google Cloud

Not that bad as Chinese investments in European universities. Shaping education by foreigners that not accept democratic principles is far more dangerous. Sure, we can speak about political correctness from West in campuses, but that has no future by definition. However... Both trends has similar goal to steal freedom from citizens.

>Sure, we can speak about political correctness from West in campuses, but that has no future by definition.

Why ? political correctness in progressive-dominated spcaces like western uni campuses goes back to the 70s/80s. I was browsing Ted Kaczynski's (better known as the UnaBomber) Industrial Society and Its Future[1], and he spoke about political correctness as an established thing. A 40-year phenomenon seems like something that won't end anytime soon.

>Shaping education by foreigners that not accept democratic principles is far more dangerous.

I wouldn't be too quick to judge. Not all of china is a single brain, maybe the people funding european universities have meaningful ideological differences from the ruling class. And the blanket usage of "democratic principles" irritates me hugely, because most of modern wesern democracies is a pathetic and transparent sham that is trampled at the earliest encounter with any real established power.

[1] http://besser.tsoa.nyu.edu/howard/Anarchism/Unabom/manifesto...

Re: Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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Post by sorrychuck » Thu, Jul 28, 2022, 7:07 AM UTC

cameronh90 wrote: post #381

tayo42 wrote: post #375

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I don't get how that description sounds like a good way to spend your time. Why do you need hours of throway content in your life from people you don't have any connection to? Why not like go to the gym or hike or cook your self a healthy meal.

Because it's fun.

Right? Imagine telling someone “you’re having fun wrong”, ridiculous.

Re: Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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Post by thirdsun » Thu, Jul 28, 2022, 8:11 AM UTC

rcpt wrote: post #254

matsemann wrote: post #11

If at least the algorithm was any good, people might not have complained as much. Like, I only follow sport stuff. Some triathletes, professional bicyclists, skiers etc. What does Instagram then decide to show me? A female cyclist with her zipper down and lots of cleavage, a skier in bikini, ass pics of swimmers etc.. Probably that's the most trending stuff related to my interests, but I follow no accounts related to…

Same problem here but to be honest I do click on those ass pics

Well, at least we know who to blame now.

Re: Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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Post by sssilver » Thu, Jul 28, 2022, 8:40 AM UTC

lotsofpulp wrote: post #343

robotshmobot wrote: post #330

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>There's something about the way you phrased this that just made me just realize there's a very real possibility that the internet could turn into television part two. My friend, we're already there.

How? I can enter any URL I want and go to any page I want. Anyone can start a website, and I can effortlessly visit it. Does not seem at all comparable to being locked into what some bosses at a cable/satellite TV/TV channel company decide you have access to, at the time they say you can access it. With no ability to upload.

You can, but will you? Or will you type keywords into a search box and trust a company’s ranking to just land you on the URL?

And if that’s how 99.9% of users are experiencing the internet, how is that not a TV?

Re: Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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Post by boppo1 » Thu, Jul 28, 2022, 9:20 AM UTC

Banana699 wrote: post #423

t0bia_s wrote: post #355

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Not that bad as Chinese investments in European universities. Shaping education by foreigners that not accept democratic principles is far more dangerous. Sure, we can speak about political correctness from West in campuses, but that has no future by definition. However... Both trends has similar goal to steal freedom from citizens.

>Sure, we can speak about political correctness from West in campuses, but that has no future by definition. Why ? political correctness in progressive-dominated spcaces like western uni campuses goes back to the 70s/80s. I was browsing Ted Kaczynski's (better known as the UnaBomber) Industrial Society and Its Future[1], and he spoke about political correctness as an established thing. A 40-year phenomenon seems like…

>most of modern wesern democracies is a pathetic and transparent sham that is trampled at the earliest encounter with any real established power

I agree with this on a knee-jerk, but it still seems to me 'the west' is different from China, Russia, etc. Why do I feel that, what's the source?

Re: Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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Post by ratg13 » Thu, Jul 28, 2022, 9:32 AM UTC

Animats wrote: post #71

The key point here is that TikTok is now beating all the US social networks. This may be the beginning of the end for what Silicon Valley calls "tech", but is just ads with social content. Peak Facebook was in Q2 2021.[1] Instagram is losing to TikTok. (If you think the "metaverse" is going to be important in the social space, check out what's happening in China in that area. While the US has been distracted by the N…

>Instagram is losing to TikTok.

Is KitchenAid losing to Tesla? Is BNSF losing to PepsiCo?

These statements are only valid if you think the two things should be comparable.

The backlash is because people want them to be separate, and to serve separate purposes.

The people at Facebook controlling Instagram are making this comparison, but to me (and probably many other people), this is more akin to KitchenAid building an electric car to compete with Tesla, while simultaneously dismantling their kitchenware department.

Re: Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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Post by krageon » Thu, Jul 28, 2022, 9:37 AM UTC

Zeebrommer wrote: post #344

t0mas88 wrote: post #313

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> but I sort of agree with the US government that it's crazy to give that much of (mostly) your youth's attention to an adversary. In a way Europe has been doing that for many years. The US does not have any privacy protection of foreigners, the NSA is only not supposed to capture data on US citizens . Only now are we seeing Google Analytics banned in many European countries. But it's a very small step.

That is not nearly the same thing. The US and western Europe have been roughly aligned about geopolitical interests, values (democracy, freedom, mostly liberal, based on a secularising Christian foundation), rules and laws. China is diametrically opposed on all those things. The cultural influence of the US on Europe is enormous, and the US has often crossed the line spying on European citizens, but the US is not an…

The only values the US and the EU align on are brutal profiteering at the expense of overseas territories. If anything, I kind of hope that China replaces the US as the influential friend and we get less of this war apologism. The US is a big bully and at every turn where it has influenced EU culture the EU has become objectively worse. For it's own citizens, for any foreign powers interacting with it, the works.

Re: Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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Post by krageon » Thu, Jul 28, 2022, 9:38 AM UTC

t0bia_s wrote: post #355

orangepurple wrote: post #327

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait until Europeans find out all of their bank data is analyzed in the Google Cloud

Not that bad as Chinese investments in European universities. Shaping education by foreigners that not accept democratic principles is far more dangerous. Sure, we can speak about political correctness from West in campuses, but that has no future by definition. However... Both trends has similar goal to steal freedom from citizens.

Ah yes, democracy. Is that when you fire up the tanks and shoot natives until they tell you you're a big boy? Or is it the terror campaign of school drone strikes after?