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Re: Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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Post by lnxg33k1 »

colonwqbang wrote: post #325
t0mas88 wrote: post #313

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but I sort of agree with the US government that it's crazy to give that much of (mostly) your youth's attention to an adversary. In a way Europe has been doing that for many years. The US does not have any privacy protection of foreigners, the NSA is only not supposed to capture data on US citizens . Only now are we seeing Google Analytics banned in many European countries. But it's a very small step.

You have a point, but the way Europeans see the US is very different from how they see China. The US has done some morally questionable things in recent memory (War on terror, Snowden/Assange, Trump, etc) but on the whole US is seen as an ally, not an adversary.

Only for politicians, it’s been 20 years that I haven’t met an European who consider the us an ally, and I’ve lived in Uk Germany Netherlands and Italy, but so far we’ve voted US allying politicians because of the threat of nationalist parties, but at least in Italy is about to change due to the energy crisis we’re going through thanks to us

Re: Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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Post by MikusR »

grishka wrote: post #371
MikusR wrote: post #145

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Youtube has a whole section with all the people you follow. https://www.youtube.com/feed/subscriptions all the videos are in reverse chronological order. Twitter has a button with stars where you can select to show only the tweets of people you follow in reverse chronological order. Called Latest Tweets.

Wait, people use something else to see the videos from their subscribed channels? I'm genuinely curious.

There is a reason TikTok got popular and RSS died. People really like their endless semirandom entertainment

Re: Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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Post by ryanwaggoner »

lnxg33k1 wrote: post #401
colonwqbang wrote: post #325

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have a point, but the way Europeans see the US is very different from how they see China. The US has done some morally questionable things in recent memory (War on terror, Snowden/Assange, Trump, etc) but on the whole US is seen as an ally, not an adversary.

Only for politicians, it’s been 20 years that I haven’t met an European who consider the us an ally, and I’ve lived in Uk Germany Netherlands and Italy, but so far we’ve voted US allying politicians because of the threat of nationalist parties, but at least in Italy is about to change due to the energy crisis we’re going through thanks to us

That’s probably more about who you spend time with, as a very strong majority of Europeans surveyed view the US as an ally and have an overall positive view: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2022/06/22/international-...

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Post by lnxg33k1 »

ryanwaggoner wrote: post #403
lnxg33k1 wrote: post #401

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only for politicians, it’s been 20 years that I haven’t met an European who consider the us an ally, and I’ve lived in Uk Germany Netherlands and Italy, but so far we’ve voted US allying politicians because of the threat of nationalist parties, but at least in Italy is about to change due to the energy crisis we’re going through thanks to us

That’s probably more about who you spend time with, as a very strong majority of Europeans surveyed view the US as an ally and have an overall positive view: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2022/06/22/international-...

I’ve seen citizen burning cities when there were Americans involved, just think about the g7 and g8 and ttip protests, I really don’t believe polls, but we’ll see upcoming elections I guess

Re: Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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Post by randycupertino »

__alias wrote: post #392
RJIb8RBYxzAMX9u wrote: post #390

(We're all adults here, yes?) If TikTok's algorithm's really so good, would someone please apply it to porn? I might actually pay money for that, and I doubt I'm alone (ha!)... Then again, despite trying TikTok a few times its never been able to capture my attention for long. Maybe I'm just hard to entertain.

Big difference is that porn is incognito so probably a little more difficult to try matching preferences with your peers for good reasons lol I don't find myself using TikTok much, but when I do it's easy for me to slip into a black void for an hour watching videos. I found the app was able to determine a pretty reasonable algorithm for me waaaay to quickly

> Big difference is that porn is incognito so probably a little more difficult to try matching preferences with your peers for good reasons lol

Maybe something like the reddit model where it's pseudonymous based on username. People who like this subreddit might also like that subreddit. People who like these porn videos might also like those videos, etc.

Re: Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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Post by hnick »

slig wrote: post #293
alexpotato wrote: post #280

As a casual user of both Facebook and TikTok, I would share my impression of how they share videos: TikTok - Their algorithm seems to very quickly hone in on things I actually want to see. - e.g. if figured out that I like to see comedy clips, some woodworking videos etc - I suspect that they do this by a combination of showing you some "test" videos that quickly bucket your interests and then using additional data b…

For me, it feels like the recommendations from Youtube, FB, Instagram, Spotify, etc, are really what they would want you to see, not what I would want to see. Never listened to those shitty podcasts, and that's what recommended for me on Spotify. The Youtube search is flooded with "recommendations" and "what's hot" that are hot garbage. Google search is getting useless, with tons of spam and obvious duplicated conten…

Just give me a way to blacklist Google results. I know there are plugins, but Google, I am willing to augment your AI with human level intelligence when I accidentally click some blog-spam-SEO-bullshit and can't hit the back button fast enough. Hide that site for me permanently. Downrank it globally if enough users do it. Use the feedback on your AI models.

Re: Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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Post by sizzle »

dvtrn wrote: post #8
winternett wrote: post #2

It's interesting that they don't care, it's a Marie Antoinette-esque attitude to their lifeblood, and ultimately what will end their dominance. The truth is they converted a free service into a pay service (the gas-lights creators and businesses into paying for visibility). The visibility, even when paid for is not very fruitful for many as well... If you run a small business like a restaurant in the US, but get 40,0…

"Baudrillard was right" - me, often.

Wow haven’t seen that name mentioned often, got any good recommendations if their writing for someone wanting to get into it?

Re: Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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Post by fragmede »

Karrot_Kream wrote: post #397
oldsecondhand wrote: post #351

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However creating text content is much cheaper than video, and I also don't see text comments replaced by video replies. Text is also easier to search both for humans (skimming) and computers. "This meeting could have been an email" also applies to entertainment.

Human attention generally isn't zero sum like that, so I've always been puzzled by this perceived "war" against text on the internet. People who previously didn't want to interact in text probably only used the internet sparingly or only used the internet for certain tasks. I've always been great at interacting with texts but had a strict rule not to try to learn mechanical skills on the internet and checkout picture…

> Human attention generally isn't zero sum like that

How so? There's only 24 hours in a day, and so many things to do in them. During those hours, one can pay attention to multiple topics but even then, the time limit means only so many details and thinking time can be acquired during them.

Re: Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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Post by dsir »

GekkePrutser wrote: post #387
harrisonjackson wrote: post #308

Instagram's biggest failing in trying to copy Tiktok is their feed algorithm. Tiktok has nailed the delightful "stumble upon" effect of getting users of all ages to keep going to the next and the next video. I don't mind how each new piece of content is paged because the content is better for the format and it doesn't feel clunky when I do want to skip to the next one. Instagram couldn't switch their algorithm becaus…

> Instagram couldn't switch their algorithm because people think they still want to see the content they've been seeing... This will differ a lot based on the user. I only use Instagram to keep tabs on activities in a few venues I frequent. I follow those and I only see what they post. Perfect. For it to show me random crap that's trending would totally break it for me. I haven't noticed this yet but I'm not even usi…

I wonder if we will see a trend of moving away from algorithmic feeds and more towards services that allow for the humanization of the content aggregation process. I know from my personal habits, I have a list of about 5-10 different sub-reddits that I frequently visit to find content instead of the content coming directly to me. The people posting within those communities sort of act like a humanized algorithm for determining what content is worth seeing. I’ve noticed in particular that the communities of the content creators that I follow being some of the best aggregators for sharing content of interest to me. I find that the communities that form around the creators being some of the strongest and most tightly knit in the modern web.

I’ve actually been working on an app https://aurdia.com to better organize and facilitate the growth of the communities formed around content creators. I’m hoping to help build a healthier web less reliant on advertisements and the data collection that comes along with it.

Re: Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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Post by moralestapia »

Animats wrote: post #71

The key point here is that TikTok is now beating all the US social networks. This may be the beginning of the end for what Silicon Valley calls "tech", but is just ads with social content. Peak Facebook was in Q2 2021.[1] Instagram is losing to TikTok. (If you think the "metaverse" is going to be important in the social space, check out what's happening in China in that area. While the US has been distracted by the N…

>"tech", but is just ads with social content

Too bad you edited your comment in this part, your previous remark was quite fun and accurate.

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