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Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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https://glass.photo/

+1 on glass. It's so purist about not having algo or becoming destroyed by influencers it's actually hard to find other photographers currently. Paid by users and no ads. I hope they work on some human-curated suggestions in the future!

I hope they come to Android soon, too. Would love to try it.

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(We're all adults here, yes?) If TikTok's algorithm's really so good, would someone please apply it to porn? I might actually pay money for that, and I doubt I'm alone (ha!)... Then again, despite trying TikTok a few times its never been able to capture my attention for long. Maybe I'm just hard to entertain.

Big difference is that porn is incognito so probably a little more difficult to try matching preferences with your peers for good reasons lol

I don't find myself using TikTok much, but when I do it's easy for me to slip into a black void for an hour watching videos. I found the app was able to determine a pretty reasonable algorithm for me waaaay to quickly

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Instagram's biggest failing in trying to copy Tiktok is their feed algorithm. Tiktok has nailed the delightful "stumble upon" effect of getting users of all ages to keep going to the next and the next video. I don't mind how each new piece of content is paged because the content is better for the format and it doesn't feel clunky when I do want to skip to the next one. Instagram couldn't switch their algorithm becaus…

> Instagram couldn't switch their algorithm because people think they still want to see the content they've been seeing... This will differ a lot based on the user. I only use Instagram to keep tabs on activities in a few venues I frequent. I follow those and I only see what they post. Perfect. For it to show me random crap that's trending would totally break it for me. I haven't noticed this yet but I'm not even usi…

I switched back to the website from the app, because although it's a bit clunkier, for whatever reason they push far less random suggested stuff on you there.

Re: Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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(We're all adults here, yes?) If TikTok's algorithm's really so good, would someone please apply it to porn? I might actually pay money for that, and I doubt I'm alone (ha!)... Then again, despite trying TikTok a few times its never been able to capture my attention for long. Maybe I'm just hard to entertain.

Big difference is that porn is incognito so probably a little more difficult to try matching preferences with your peers for good reasons lol I don't find myself using TikTok much, but when I do it's easy for me to slip into a black void for an hour watching videos. I found the app was able to determine a pretty reasonable algorithm for me waaaay to quickly

IIUC incognito's not effective at evading fingerprinting. It's really only good for preventing auto-complete accidents when e.g. you're giving a group presentation.

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>This may be the beginning of the end for what Silicon Valley calls "tech" There's something about the way you phrased this that just made me just realize there's a very real possibility that the internet could turn into television part two. If you think about the most popular platforms, they are mostly video and now the other very popular ones are trying to follow in kind. There's also all the streaming platforms th…

A text-based internet is mostly a relic of low broadband penetration. Video is more engaging than text for most people.

I see a video, I think "ugh, a fucking video."

Articles are so much better at giving information, it's crazy to me that people bother with video.

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A text-based internet is mostly a relic of low broadband penetration. Video is more engaging than text for most people.

Boggles my mind how. Unless it is an arts and crafts or mechanical or some other hands on video, it is so inefficient to watch someone talk rather than just read the transcript.

It's well known that not everyone does best with text. It's why most college lectures have a text/notes, a lecture, and a discussion component. Some value the interactivity of the discussion, some the audio of the lecture, and others the text itself. For the longest time the internet mostly gave value to people who preferred to interact in text. Now the internet is wide open to give value to people who prefer interacting in discussion, video, audio, and more.

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A text-based internet is mostly a relic of low broadband penetration. Video is more engaging than text for most people.

However creating text content is much cheaper than video, and I also don't see text comments replaced by video replies. Text is also easier to search both for humans (skimming) and computers. "This meeting could have been an email" also applies to entertainment.

Human attention generally isn't zero sum like that, so I've always been puzzled by this perceived "war" against text on the internet. People who previously didn't want to interact in text probably only used the internet sparingly or only used the internet for certain tasks. I've always been great at interacting with texts but had a strict rule not to try to learn mechanical skills on the internet and checkout picture books from the library, or better yet ask an experienced friend/professional. Now I can pop up Youtube and find out how an electrician changes outlets in a home. I now strictly do more things on the internet.

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Instagram's biggest failing in trying to copy Tiktok is their feed algorithm. Tiktok has nailed the delightful "stumble upon" effect of getting users of all ages to keep going to the next and the next video. I don't mind how each new piece of content is paged because the content is better for the format and it doesn't feel clunky when I do want to skip to the next one. Instagram couldn't switch their algorithm becaus…

> Tiktok has nailed the delightful "stumble upon" effect Am I the only one who hates this usage of the word "delightful"? I think of delightful as nearly a synonym to the word "serendipitous", in that there's a rare joy to it -- difference between those two words that serendipitous is unexpected while delightful could be expected. I associate this with events like running into close friends or family, or just having…

Reminds me of the CS Lewis quote, "Don’t use words too big for the subject. Don’t say infinitely when you mean very; otherwise you’ll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite."

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> a "web of discoverability", with meaningful, relevant links on each website curated by the site owners themselves. Are you old enough to remember "web rings?"

I kind of do that on an individual level myself - http://www.ruffandtuffrecordings.com/SELECTIONS Those are music picks I regularly update... It would be really cool if there was the ability to standardize the format for small web sites like this and then be able to follow others with similar interests... Pretty much reviving the old Myspace in essence, but with independent micro-sites for hosting curated links and o…

I like that, Bandcamp lets artists do something similar in that they can suggested albums/tracks ahead of the payment algorithmically selected suggestions.

In the early 2000s I remember lots of blogs about music where they just posted links to mp3s because there didn't seem to be a better way to embed tracks. I appreciate people based suggestions.

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