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Denmark bans Gmail and Co from schools due to privacy concerns

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Re: Denmark bans Gmail and Co from schools due to privacy concerns

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Also a popular expression in English; there is no translation issue. More of a synonym for “et al” than “et cetera”.

Trust me, it is far far more popular in German, and would never be written as "and Co" in English. In English, "& co." is used pretty much exclusively about people, whereas in German it's used literally everywhere, basically meaning "a category of things of which [this] is a famous example."

Never?

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22and+co%22

Re: Denmark bans Gmail and Co from schools due to privacy concerns

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Should need to teach how to think. Part of that means the ability to adopt to whatever tool. Thus schools should require students to use each of 4 different office system. O365 is only one of them, and LibreOffice is an obvious section choice (I'm have no idea what the others might be). tools come and go, but the concepts you are using the tools for stick around. I wasted a lot of time learning WordPerfect F-keys bac…

> Should need to teach how to think. Do you know if there is any sort of consensus on this topic on how to do it? It looks like a very popular belief, but do anyone actually knows how to think, and even more, how to teach how to think without making it just a different kind of propaganda?

Here I'm focused on the skills of making an easy to read/nice too look at paper, and not the much more broad skill of critical thinking in any situation. (though that is the real goal of school, I have no idea how to teach it - see the other reply) As such what we need to teach is when to change font size, when bold/italic is good, when column layouts are good, how to format table of contents, and many other things that you would do. Any word processor can do all of the above. Then a similar list of things for the other tools in an office suite.

That is how to think about office documents. Once you know what you want to do any tool can do that.

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I'm also European, from Portugal specifically. Our taxes pay for mandatory schools textbooks, just like in the US it seems.

I don't think this is the correct view of the system. Individual schools in Portugal (as well as where I live, and in the US) are buying books on the market, and the books are competing on it - just writing a textbook doesn't guarantee any school will buy it, it's a risk - and that's great because it means the writers have to make good books and there's a lot of choice and many different styles and price levels. That…

Yeah, you're right. Even my reaction at Google software finding it's way into public schools is too extreme. I guess that my knowledge of these companies manipulative business practices does fire me up.

As long as there is a public competition, and the decision is well formed, intended and transmitted transparently, there shouldn't be a problem.

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It is an open secret if you talk to any Google employee that Gmail data is heavily used to enrich other Google services, including ad placement, even if indirectly. They also can and will give it to authorities thanks to bulk keyword sharing agreements with or without individual warrants. https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2021/10/04/googl... US citizens should take careful note of the fact their data is onl…

Its literally in the Google Workspace terms of service they don't do this with workspace data.

Until they get a blanket keyword warrant or need more data to train their ad placement AI that they do not use -directly-.
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