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Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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This seems like a great place to ask: Does anyone have a suggestion for a good alternative for old-Instagram (e.g. just sharing photos)? I only joined originally because of their cool map view that had pins around the world showing where each of your shared photos were taken, and they removed that feature a few years ago; I haven't found any other app than Google Photos that does it well. However, Google Photos does…

https://glass.photo/

+1 on glass. It's so purist about not having algo or becoming destroyed by influencers it's actually hard to find other photographers currently. Paid by users and no ads. I hope they work on some human-curated suggestions in the future!

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I was very happy to learn that I could "Snooze suggested posts" for 30 days. That we can't disable them is, well, perhaps predatory, but here's how to do it.

There's an X at the top-right of any suggested post. If you click it, an option appears to snooze those posts for 30d.

Mosseri is right to be concerned about supporting creator-discovery, which is a huge problem on the supply-side of IG's creator/consumer marketplace. If suggested posts were only a few percent of posts and didn't favor eye-catching Reels, but rather content in the same spirit as a user already follows, quality content could again rise to the top.

Re: Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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Actually it's pretty smart to reward the inventive ones and punish the freeloaders, or else there'd be a rush to become a freeloader and stop the hard work of inventing - leading to species-wide collapse.

What have these rewards truly given us? The open/free scientific communities are responsible for most tangible benefit - meanwhile, those reaping the biggest rewards give us... planned obsolescence I understand the sentiment and even agree to an extent, but the reality is things are abused and wasted as well - to a shocking degree, in pursuit of 'mine'

False. Tangible benefits are frightfully hard to bring about. Nobody does that for free. Newton came up woth calculus, shared it for free, and transformed the world.

But all tangible benefits arising from that involved a lot of people, a lot of work, and a lot of risk. Planned obsolescence, bad as it may be, is a non-issue in the bigger picture.

Re: Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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Instagram's biggest failing in trying to copy Tiktok is their feed algorithm. Tiktok has nailed the delightful "stumble upon" effect of getting users of all ages to keep going to the next and the next video. I don't mind how each new piece of content is paged because the content is better for the format and it doesn't feel clunky when I do want to skip to the next one. Instagram couldn't switch their algorithm becaus…

I haven't checked recently and I don't have the phone with the new version of Instagram on it with me (so maybe this changed) but for a long time (and I think still) I have one account that has the paged UI and one account that still has the fling UI logged in to the same copy of Instagram simultaneously (as in where I can switch between them using the account selector).

Yeah, I am sure there is some strategy to rolling out such a big change. It limits a Day 1 blast of complaints and media posts when they slowly roll it out. Plus it lets them eliminate any issues (according to them hah) before it reaches the masses.

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When Twitter forced the algorithmic timeline on people, someone tweeted: "Is the algorithm based what everyone else likes, or what I like? Because I hate what everyone else likes, and I don't know what I like."

I don't have TikTok, but for 2 years this is what I've been hearing from people who love it. They figured out a way to show you exactly what you're interested in, without you giving them any specific input There have been many articles about the phenomenon of the "For You Page"[1][2]. But the funny part is Meta sees this and figures - people are looking at videos, we'll do videos. And not - people are seeing what the…

Yes, TikTok must do per-user model tweaking to whatever degree they can afford, right?

Re: Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When Twitter forced the algorithmic timeline on people, someone tweeted: "Is the algorithm based what everyone else likes, or what I like? Because I hate what everyone else likes, and I don't know what I like."

I don't have TikTok, but for 2 years this is what I've been hearing from people who love it. They figured out a way to show you exactly what you're interested in, without you giving them any specific input There have been many articles about the phenomenon of the "For You Page"[1][2]. But the funny part is Meta sees this and figures - people are looking at videos, we'll do videos. And not - people are seeing what the…

Yep, TikTok learns really fast and after it has learned it shows you mostly stuff it knows you like.

Then - maybe one video in 20 or something - you get stuff that's either completely different, completely new (under 100 likes/views) or related to something you liked a long time ago. And then the next one is again something you actually like.

The Instagram model is just shoving "recommendations" to every 3rd slot on my screen. And every 4th one is an ad.

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TikTok is banned in my country but friends from UK and US say that the algorithm is much better at recommending videos. True or just plain individual bias?

https://restofworld.org/2021/instagram-and-class-in-india/ I saw this last year and it does a great job telling the story of how Instagram's recommendation engine biased towards "elites"

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>there's some code out there that is a work of art and can inspire awe in everyone. and the people who wrote it didn't spend thousands of hours memorizing the same stupid leetcode exercises to pass lame interviews for 6 figures job, they worked on real projects tell me the fast inverse square root from Carmack would have been praised in an interview...

Leetcode isn't an alternative to real world projects, it's an alternative to textbooks and lectures for beginners. Zuckerberg was able to build Facebook because he got a good education and understood graph theory enough to apply it to social networks. In the past, the only people who really understood concepts like graphs were people who endured rigorous four-year computer science curriculums. And only top students a…

> understood graph theory enough to apply it to social networks.

Facebook accounts have a friends list. Why would you need to understand graph theory.

Re: Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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They rolled out this update slowly and when it hit my account, it happened to be the day Biden posted about his Covid diagnosis and that was the post at the top of my feed.

I couldn't figure out why it was showing me this post with an all black border and not letting me scroll.

First, I thought it was a bug and then I thought they were forcing everyone (or some subset of American users) to watch Biden's instagram lol. Not a logical reaction but was my first interaction with the new UI and I was very confused.

My SO also thought it was a bug and we spent 5 minutes trying to fix the app before realizing it was just a clunky update.

Re: Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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> “I guarantee that every single person who liked and shared that post about bringing Instagram back to what it was, would spend way less time on Instagram if it reverted back to how it used to be,” This is what I also think. People (or, the mass of the users) keep following users that posts a lot of videos, they watch a lot of reels and like those... So instagram is doing the correct thing (for their goals of keepin…

I disagree. It's certainly not the case for me - Instagram has become an app I open out of habit or because I got a notification, remember that it sucks now, and close again. But more generally, this is two things: the tail wagging the dog, because Instagram pushes reels hard you get more engagement there as a creator which pushes people into them; and the fact that low quality engagement is a poor proxy for what people actually want. Instagram can show me videos of women in sheer tops all day, and if I am bored it is mindlessly engaging, but it is never what I want. What I want is to skim over 50 posts from people I care about, and maybe interact with one or two of them. I think am far from alone in what I want, but Instagram does not want what I want, because it is harder to keep me looking once I get to the end of my feed, and harder to put ads in front of me I don't scroll past almost immediately.
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