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Theory on facebook failure/Google failure to innovate: They have the highest leetcode standards out of FAANG. As does Snap. They hire people that basically memorized computer science algorithms. And so their employees are bookish, not innovative people. Apple, Microsoft, and Amazon do not have the same issues with creating new products. Keith Rabois (top VC), mentioned that FB has always prioritized optimization over…

The ones coming up with products are usually executives looking to advance their career. e.g. everyone I know who worked on Google Stadia who cared readily pointed out all the problems from idea to implementation. Management & product design waved off the concerns, said they were in for the long haul, and that the product would be a huge success regardless. And then they got cold feet after realizing how much of a fl…

I agree, in the sense that it's less about leetcode skills and more about company politics. I can tell you for a fact that the programming geniuses don't make product decisions, much less so strategy decisions. These products would look VERY different if that was the case.

Instead, the important strategic decisions are left for various opportunistic short termers, like product managers, directors etc. They are incentivized on shorter time scales and are motivated by prestige, visibility and career advancement. What looks good in a slide deck will be rewarded, basically. These people are much more in touch with internal company politics first and the industry at large second. They are shockingly oblivious to their own user base – (YouTube rewind is the best irrefutable proof for this).

Big redesigns and product changes are rewarded for way too early, imo. Common tenure for a PM is 1-1.5 years, enough for a promotion, and short enough to weasel out before they have to deal with the backlash.

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>there's some code out there that is a work of art and can inspire awe in everyone. and the people who wrote it didn't spend thousands of hours memorizing the same stupid leetcode exercises to pass lame interviews for 6 figures job, they worked on real projects tell me the fast inverse square root from Carmack would have been praised in an interview...

bless his comment in code for a magic number in >Q3 engine // don't change this number, not sure why it works... not an exact quote but something like that

Love that, I have also written a pretty much identical comment in the past lol

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Theory on facebook failure/Google failure to innovate: They have the highest leetcode standards out of FAANG. As does Snap. They hire people that basically memorized computer science algorithms. And so their employees are bookish, not innovative people. Apple, Microsoft, and Amazon do not have the same issues with creating new products. Keith Rabois (top VC), mentioned that FB has always prioritized optimization over…

Two of the most profitable and innovative companies in the world.

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> Theory on facebook failure/Google failure to innovate

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You really think Google have a failure to innovate? Obviously search was their first, core innovation, but over the years they’ve delivered so many other successful products (many acquired, true, but even those they’ve evolved really well). Off the top of my head: - Maps - AdWords - Gmail - YouTube - Analytics - Translate - Calendar - Sheets - Docs - Drive - Meet - Slides - Drawings - Forms - Trends - Alerts I’m sure…

For context though: - Maps - 2005 - AdWords - 2000 - Gmail - 2004 - YouTube - 2005, but not founded by Google - Analytics - 2005 - Translate - 2006 (but with neural machine engine in 2016) - Calendar - 2006 - Sheets - 2006, but not founded by Google - Docs - 2006, but not founded by Google - Drive - 2012 - Slides - 2007, but based on acquisition - Drawings - 2010 - Forms - Prior to 2014, couldn't find exact date - Tr…

Maps was also an acquisition.

Re: Instagram is shifting to videos – users aren't happy

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Theory on facebook failure/Google failure to innovate: They have the highest leetcode standards out of FAANG. As does Snap. They hire people that basically memorized computer science algorithms. And so their employees are bookish, not innovative people. Apple, Microsoft, and Amazon do not have the same issues with creating new products. Keith Rabois (top VC), mentioned that FB has always prioritized optimization over…

I don't know where to start with this comment. a) Meta can be accused of so many things but failing to build new, ambitious products is not one of them. They are literally pivoting the company to AR/VR and betting the future of the company on it. Quest2 is a huge success and their demoed R&D work on new headsets looks genuinely exciting and innovative. b) You are clearly ignorant of how product management works in a…

Small caveat there… they didn’t build AR/VR … they bought it then poured tons of money onto the smaller and more innovative company to get growth before trying to put a bullet though it’s customer base by forcing Facebook accounts in order to get greater synergies with the rest of Facebook only to backflip because the gaming market hates it so much it was hurting sales.

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> They have the highest leetcode standards out of FAANG. As does Snap. They hire people that basically memorized computer science algorithms. And so their employees are bookish, not innovative people. Apple, Microsoft, and Amazon do not have the same issues with creating new products. I don't think this is necessarily true because the people designing products are not the same people creating/implementing them. Even…

Commented this elsewhere: Theres a difference between creating beautiful creative code and creating an innovative product that people want to use. Its a different type of intelligence, and why you dont see Math professors starting ecommerce/product/clothing businesses. The classic dichotomy between steve jobs and wozniak. I have worked at a few big tech companies, I have regularly seen engineers drive huge innovation…

You don't see math professors doing startups because they have tenure and are financially risk-averse. They also simply like being professors.

There may be another factor - universities are dominated by anti-capitalist sentiment. Doing a business startup means exiting that belief system.

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All of social media is broken right now. Instagram actively hides pics from my step kids, nephew and niece to show me "reels" from people I don't follow. Last night a photo from my step daughter flickered briefly and then was lost. I couldn't find it again until this morning. I literally can't find their content anymore without scrolling and dodging videos that keep popping up. Youtube broke entirely a few months ago…

All entertainment seems to be broken. Let me watch something on netflix my recommended list is almost identical to comedy, adventure, etc. Their machine learning must show that people will just watch what is in front of them.

My audible app is full of recommendations for books I ALREADY HAVE I MY LIBRARY.

Netflix seems to be actually getting better, for a while, watching a single video could entirely change my recommended list.

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Theory on facebook failure/Google failure to innovate: They have the highest leetcode standards out of FAANG. As does Snap. They hire people that basically memorized computer science algorithms. And so their employees are bookish, not innovative people. Apple, Microsoft, and Amazon do not have the same issues with creating new products. Keith Rabois (top VC), mentioned that FB has always prioritized optimization over…

Sort of. There is not a direct correlation between leetcode, engineering skill, and productivity.

I also know some boneheads who made it into google somehow. I think hiring is more of a crapshoot these days than it was in the early 2000s when the tech industry was not cool, was fairly homogenous and full of nerds.

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Theory on facebook failure/Google failure to innovate: They have the highest leetcode standards out of FAANG. As does Snap. They hire people that basically memorized computer science algorithms. And so their employees are bookish, not innovative people. Apple, Microsoft, and Amazon do not have the same issues with creating new products. Keith Rabois (top VC), mentioned that FB has always prioritized optimization over…

Apple was famous for taking forever to design “their copy” of popular thing.

Then Facebook and the rest became staples of iDevices, Apple focused on stupid slim design rather than pushing the product envelope, and risk their yearly mobile cash cow.

Their EarPods were not exactly the first BT earbuds, HomePod was well after Alexa. Subscription video and games?

For the most part they are doing the same with hardware; changing up housing but emphasizing their own chips.

MS aped Apple laptop quality with Surface, bombed mightily with Windows Phone, is doing fine with Azure; again all products that came as a response to others.

We’re beyond the bootstrap phase of technology. Something truly innovative to the user is still in some lab.

My money is on bio-tech mutant; custom drugs and high res simulation to embed an experience so real you think it happened. I dunno something that’s focused on more than b2b apps/ads deals and phone update cycles.

I mean there is no point to any of this. There’s no higher calling for people. One generation being addicted to computers as we know them is not necessarily a forever trend for the species. It’s just math. shrug

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Theory on facebook failure/Google failure to innovate: They have the highest leetcode standards out of FAANG. As does Snap. They hire people that basically memorized computer science algorithms. And so their employees are bookish, not innovative people. Apple, Microsoft, and Amazon do not have the same issues with creating new products. Keith Rabois (top VC), mentioned that FB has always prioritized optimization over…

This seems like wishful thinking. Why assume that academic intelligence makes you less creative? Do you think that people who graduate with high grades out of Harvard/MIT/Stanford are less creative than people who graduate from second-tier universities because they are too bookish? I think the reality is probably that it's hard for any large company to be truly innovative. Once you get to a certain size, red tape and…

I posted this elsewhere, creativity with regards to creating and intuiting what will be a good product is completely different than creating a beautiful algorithm. Math professors arent known for their sense of style. And I agree, size hampers it, but here we have Amazon, Microsoft, and Apple all creating new products that people like. And who you hire as engineers permeates through the culture.
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