All Programming is Web Programming
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All Programming is Web Programming
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Re: All Programming is Web Programming
#2What Jeff apparently meant was that all application programming is web programming. Because of this unstated (and absurd) assumption, Jeff's critique fails to address most of Michael's points - whether you agree with those points or not. By completely ignoring the system-programmer perspective, Jeff actually manages to be more insulting and apparently clueless than Michael was.
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#4What Jeff apparently meant was that all application programming is web programming. Because of this unstated (and absurd) assumption, Jeff's critique fails to address most of Michael's points - whether you agree with those points or not. By completely ignoring the system-programmer perspective, Jeff actually manages to be more insulting and apparently clueless than Michael was.
Someone has managed to necro a two-year old argument. What we said two years ago may not be the same as what we say now.
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#5I don't particularly care for either argument, it just seems like pointless pandering to different fan bases. Applications will evolve towards any platform as necessary
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#6How about adding [2009] to the title? If I see a popular blog on HN I assume it's at least the current year. I probably wouldn't click through to an old Atwood post.
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#7I don't particularly care for either argument, it just seems like pointless pandering to different fan bases. Applications will evolve towards any platform as necessary
Agreed. Comes off as biased fanboy-ism. It's easy to knock web programming because of how low the barrier to entry is and how any idiot who knows msqli_connect and a few simple HTML tags usually starts calling themselves a programmer. But really it takes just as much knowledge and expertise to be a "web guy". Just understanding how the client browser interacts with the server, the server to each of its components (the server software, database software, etc.) and the myriad of languages that need to interact to form a useful web app can be just as complex as writing software and understanding compilers, interfaces, classes, objects, methods, etc.
I don't like how the argument devolves into "this stuff I do is complicated so I'm smarter and your stuff is simple so you're dumb". I'm a "web guy" and I had a programmer call me yesterday to help him with a simple Wordpress upgrade, SSL certificate, and an upgrade to phpMyAdmin.
Software can be easy or hard just like web apps. I think maybe the big difference is that web apps can get wider exposure more easily than desktop software as all you need is a browser to run it so they're just more visible. There are plenty of crappy desktop software apps and I make them all the time when I play with C++.
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#8I would expect such a brilliant, intelligent and real programmer to write something better than that...
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#9Seems like everything is moving in the path of least resistance.
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#10All programming is web programming, as much as all industry is consumer goods industry.