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Re: Firefox is losing users fast

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Post by xtracto »

axblount wrote: post #31
buscoquadnary wrote: post #10

If they focused more on the browser and spent less time and effort on these weird side projects they'd probably be in a better spot. Some data points if anyone from FF sees this: I try and proselyte users to Firefox as often as I can. The biggest selling point I've had success with so far is the containers feature. The big place I see people going is Brave under the idea it is more private or secure. I'd also love to…

Do you see Brave as more private and secure? Or do you think it gives a false sense of security relative to Firefox?

I like that it blocks ads by default. Other than that I don't care too much about privacy .

The thing with Firefox for me has always been that it feels heavy. I've been trying to use it every now and then since 2005. I even used it exclusively at some point in Linux because of Treestyle tab. But for me it has always felt heavy, sluggish and sometimes unresponsive (at some point it was single threaded, do 1 tab crashing/hanging killed the whole thing).

Re: Firefox is losing users fast

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Post by xtracto »

rvz wrote: post #41
buscoquadnary wrote: post #10

If they focused more on the browser and spent less time and effort on these weird side projects they'd probably be in a better spot. Some data points if anyone from FF sees this: I try and proselyte users to Firefox as often as I can. The biggest selling point I've had success with so far is the containers feature. The big place I see people going is Brave under the idea it is more private or secure. I'd also love to…

Firefox had its chance 17 years ago when it was at its prime and was in a position to expand and get more users to become the dominant browser. Instead, they chose not to and Google overtook and sabotaged them whilst Mozilla was under the spell of Google's billions even thinking that they could do without Google's billions. [0] Mozilla did not care and did nothing about that. It is now too late to stop Google. All ro…

There needs to be a new effort like how Firefox was created. I remember the headlines at the time were that a "rebrlious" young guy was going against big Mozilla and it's full fledged navigator/browser that was pretty beefy.

Fast forward to today, someone gotta grab Ff engine, strip as all the crap and create a privacy first lean, fast and secure alternative.

Something like what the Brave guys did, but for FF .

Re: Firefox is losing users fast

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Post by JohnTHaller »

daveguy wrote: post #55
buscoquadnary wrote: post #10

If they focused more on the browser and spent less time and effort on these weird side projects they'd probably be in a better spot. Some data points if anyone from FF sees this: I try and proselyte users to Firefox as often as I can. The biggest selling point I've had success with so far is the containers feature. The big place I see people going is Brave under the idea it is more private or secure. I'd also love to…

15+ years ago Firefox was focused on a fast, stable browser. It was the alternative to the Mozilla browser. They did an excellent job of keeping it both. At some point they decided to make it an experimental browser. As soon as they started having regular breaking changes to plugins was when I switched to Chrome. I recently went back to Firefox on mobile, because I like the idea of not giving google all of my data. A…

Strange. I use Firefox on Android daily on both my phone and tablet and haven't seen it crash in months.

Re: Firefox is losing users fast

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Post by daveguy »

JohnTHaller wrote: post #64
daveguy wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

15+ years ago Firefox was focused on a fast, stable browser. It was the alternative to the Mozilla browser. They did an excellent job of keeping it both. At some point they decided to make it an experimental browser. As soon as they started having regular breaking changes to plugins was when I switched to Chrome. I recently went back to Firefox on mobile, because I like the idea of not giving google all of my data. A…

Strange. I use Firefox on Android daily on both my phone and tablet and haven't seen it crash in months.

Well, that's kind of the point. I haven't seen Chrome crash in years and I use those plugins and a lot more on desktop. On Android I had the same stable fast experience as on desktop (and it wasn't even using ublock to filter 90% of the internet on Android). Chrome just seems a lot more stable and no slowdowns where I have to just close it. Sometimes the keyboard stops working on data entry with firefox. I have none of those problems when I switch back to Chrome. Maybe it's plugin support issues or maybe it's older-phone issues, but there are definitely issues that I don't have on Chrome using the same hardware.

Re: Firefox is losing users fast

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Post by yucky »

There is a 4 word phrase that encapsulates what happened to Firefox. I won't post it, but it began with how they did Eich and with how they're rewarding whoever that new "CEO" is.

As a 15+ year Firefox user, I finally gave up and moved to Brave. Good riddance.

Re: Firefox is losing users fast

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Post by effingwewt »

Killing extensions android users used as a way around them constantly removing features such as inspecting element showed they gave no fucks.

I've been using brave more and more, as soon as I migrate all my bookmarks I'm off it for good.

Re: Firefox is losing users fast

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Post by Markoff »

Browser which is toy for devs who completely ignore for years user requests is losing users, I'm shocked! Left the boat few years ago first for Edge, now on Vivaldi.

Never really used on mobile, it was always useless (slow for starters), I'm better of with Kiwi browser with proper extension support.

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