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This is a brilliant idea. Feel like it should work since this is already done for YouTube. The same mechanism is used to A/B test thumbnails and automatically choose one to be the winning candidate. Congrats on making this.

Thank you!!

I'm not the one that will create this, but I agree. The more you can A/B test everything, the better xD

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Do this with the Apple App Store! “App Store Optimization” is a huge business, and something simple like this (with suggestions on what you should try - perhaps a premium feature?) I’d sign up instantly

I think this is supported in the App Store since iOS 15.

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I like the website!

There is no “testing” going on here, unfortunately. You’re just taking turns placing users in the treatment or control group, arbitrarily, depending on when they visit the page. How can you measure any treatment effect when everyone is part of either group?

I guess you could try something like switchback testing, but I’m not convinced visits to the average Twitter profile will yield enough samples.

I think it’s a well-executed idea, but I don’t think it’s fair to sell results under the guise of statistical validity when they don’t appear to have that. (although it’s just Twitter profiles, not eg medical treatment, so no real harm done)

Re: Show HN: Birdy – Twitter Profile A/B Testing

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Do this with the Apple App Store! “App Store Optimization” is a huge business, and something simple like this (with suggestions on what you should try - perhaps a premium feature?) I’d sign up instantly

I think this is supported in the App Store since iOS 15.

It doesn't seem to be available for the Mac app store however :/

Re: Show HN: Birdy – Twitter Profile A/B Testing

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post #43

I like the website! There is no “testing” going on here, unfortunately. You’re just taking turns placing users in the treatment or control group, arbitrarily, depending on when they visit the page. How can you measure any treatment effect when everyone is part of either group? I guess you could try something like switchback testing, but I’m not convinced visits to the average Twitter profile will yield enough samples…

Thanks for the comment :D

> There is no “testing” going on here, unfortunately. You’re just taking turns placing users in the treatment or control group, arbitrarily, depending on when they visit the page. How can you measure any treatment effect when everyone is part of either group?

This is not a perfect solution, but I have found that it is good enough to be able to identify clear winners (if there is actually a winning version). A lot of followers won't visit your profile multiple times anyway. They visit it, and they either follow it or they don't - and they will of course be influenced by the currently displayed version :). They won't just come back to your profile over and over again for no reason, but if they do, they will also convert better on the version they prefer. So a version might nudge the user into following you while another one might not. I would disagree that this is not testing. I think it is for the majority of the profile clicks you receive.

> I guess you could try something like switchback testing, but I’m not convinced visits to the average Twitter profile will yield enough samples.

I don't think that would be possible with the current Twitter API capabilities anyway.

> I think it’s a well-executed idea, but I don’t think it’s fair to sell results under the guise of statistical validity when they don’t appear to have that. (although it’s just Twitter profiles, not eg medical treatment, so no real harm done)

While the results might not be perfectly accurate, I think they are accurate enough to provide value, especially if you let the test run long enough to get a big sample size. I personally use Birdy (obviously :D) and I have noticed much better conversion, which is why I'm confident.

I'm looking forward to seeing new capabilities appear on the Twitter API to always make the process more accurate though.

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If I’m understanding correctly, this switches your profile on some interval between A and B, whereas a proper A/B test will randomly bucket a user to experiment A or B. Not that it matters - this solution is probably the right way to go without building something into Twitter itself - but the more data/stats oriented folks may be confused or irked by calling this “A/B testing”

Why is bucketing users the better approach? To me it seems like bucketing would ignore "all other factors" that also changed, whereas dynamic (or periodic) switching seems like it would normalize those "other factors" across both A/B (ideally).

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Don't want to rain on your parade but this is in no way a scientific A/B test. If I understand this correctly, Birdy periodically switches profile information b/n A and B.

* How do you make sure the same user who was on A variant yesterday doesn't get the B variant today?

If the same user gets both variants over different periods of time, how can you say treatment group engaged more with your content. People shuffle in and out of the treatment group periodically. Thoughts?

Re: Show HN: Birdy – Twitter Profile A/B Testing

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is supported in the App Store since iOS 15.

It doesn't seem to be available for the Mac app store however :/

Yeah, the Mac app store progresses much slower than the iOS store for whatever reason.
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