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Huanan Seafood Market in Wuhan was early epicenter of the Covid-19 pandemic

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Re: Huanan Seafood Market in Wuhan was early epicenter of the Covid-19 pandemic

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I don't believe this to be true. I consider the likelyhood that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was the cause of this to be much higher than that the seafood market in wuhan was the cause and there's no reason to trust any media or NGO to be truthful in that regard.

Not sure why you're being downvoted for your opinion. I think it's quite clear all we have are theories at this point and if anyone knows, it would be the Chinese government.

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I don't believe this to be true. I consider the likelyhood that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was the cause of this to be much higher than that the seafood market in wuhan was the cause and there's no reason to trust any media or NGO to be truthful in that regard.

Two things can be true. The virus might have originated from a Virology lab and the contamination epicenter can be on a wet market.

I would consider that a lab leak and to focus on the epicenter without looking at the obvious leak from the lab next door is just propaganda to make people not look to close. Because anyone that says "covid-19 originated from the wetmarket in wuhan" implies that it was not a lab leak.

Re: Huanan Seafood Market in Wuhan was early epicenter of the Covid-19 pandemic

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This was known for two years. Markets are breeding grounds for zoonotic diseases. They often even jump from human to animal and back. The real question is--how did the virus get to the live market? The study accurately says, "While there is insufficient evidence to define upstream events, and exact circumstances remain obscure, our analyses indicate that the emergence of SARS-CoV-2 occurred via the live wildlife trad…

> how did the virus get to the live market?

My guess is that someone was selling animals from the lab that were supposed to be destroyed.

Re: Huanan Seafood Market in Wuhan was early epicenter of the Covid-19 pandemic

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This was known for two years. Markets are breeding grounds for zoonotic diseases. They often even jump from human to animal and back. The real question is--how did the virus get to the live market? The study accurately says, "While there is insufficient evidence to define upstream events, and exact circumstances remain obscure, our analyses indicate that the emergence of SARS-CoV-2 occurred via the live wildlife trad…

Sorry this is an unscientific conclusion. The lab leak is more plausible based on the animals required and known and proposed research at that facility. It's simply another polemic. Without information / data from the lab you cannot claim one is more probable.

> The lab leak is more plausible

> you cannot claim one is more probable

Am I missing something here?

Re: Huanan Seafood Market in Wuhan was early epicenter of the Covid-19 pandemic

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They still don't have anything. Streetlight effect at its finest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streetlight_effect However, we do not have access to the precise latitude and longitude coordinates of all these cases. Should such data exist, they may be accompanied by additional metadata, some of which we have reconstructed, but some of which, including the date of onset of each case, would be valuable for ongoing stud…

Don't worry adolph we still need to pretend that this is the leading cause of death in the world and that economic recession will not responsible for 10-100x this based on historical evidence.

Frankly turning this on it's head, Russia should be applauded for pushing so many people toward green, renewable and truely economically viable energy sources, I nominate putin for the nobel peace prize based on his efforts here.

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None of the fines were for data falsification. Now we know not to trust albatross13.

the inference being here that companies paying fines at this level are completely above board and trustworthy?

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Sorry this is an unscientific conclusion. The lab leak is more plausible based on the animals required and known and proposed research at that facility. It's simply another polemic. Without information / data from the lab you cannot claim one is more probable.

> The lab leak is more plausible > you cannot claim one is more probable Am I missing something here?

Nope - HN is one of the worst 'smart' places on the internet for Covid discussion. Every single thread immediately devolves into completely ascientific conspiracy ranting.

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Vaccines are drugs that trigger immune system response. Always have been.

If you're referring to the CDC changing its layperson definition on https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htm, its old definition was wrong and didn't include flu vaccines, among many others.

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