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Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by petesergeant »

imiric wrote: post #203
groffee wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook is dying, but not because of TikTok. Facebook is dying because they stopped being Facebook. If they gave what's left of their userbase what they actually wanted (chronological feed, seeing friends posts, not seeing spam, more ways to interact (bring back pets, gifts, superpokes etc)) they'd do ok. It doesn't help that their core code is a steaming pile of bloated dung that doesn't seem to be tested by anyone…

> Facebook is dying because they stopped being Facebook. If they gave what's left of their userbase what they actually wanted (chronological feed, seeing friends posts, not seeing spam, more ways to interact (bring back pets, gifts, superpokes etc)) they'd do ok. I have no horse in this race, but why do you think you know what's better for FB more than the thousands of smart engineers and PMs working there? They clea…

> why do you think you know what's better for FB more than the thousands of smart engineers and PMs working there

doubt they're the ones making the big strategic decisions

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Post by xwdv »

SoftTalker wrote: post #229
xwdv wrote: post #102

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Yes, otherwise it’s basically back to the dark age where I have no idea what other people are doing because I have no close friends.

Then get off the computer and go makes some friends.

There is little to no way to deliberately make friends after age 30. Friends become a much lower priority in adult life.

You can meet some people, but they are unlikely to ever ascend to the level of a close friend.

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Post by mulmen »

ekianjo wrote: post #141
guelo wrote: post #123

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How do people without guns inside a government building control anything exactly?

By force. The same way they broke down the locked doors and windows and overwhelmed the police.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by mtoohig »

hiptobecubic wrote: post #140

I feel like half the comments here about "facebook dying" and how "facebook can't compete with tiktok" are missing the big picture about facebook. For a lot of people, facebook basically is the internet. The same way AOL was a long time ago. Everyone they want to talk to as they go about their day is there. Basically every business in the US that bothers with an online presence at all either has a facebook page or ex…

In Vanuatu, where I am now. Facebook is free to use on mobile phone networks provided by Vodafone or Digicel.

Consequently, Facebook is 'the internet' for most here. We have Facebook groups with member counts that are 1/3 of the country's population. For example the group 'Yumi Toktok Stret' has 128K members for a country of 300k. It is an amazing look into the thoughts of a nation since everything from jokes and gossip to serious arguments on policy occur there.

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Post by akomtu »

ulfw wrote: post #73

What's going on with Facebook product management? It's shocking to see core products deteriorate, others barely every improve (where's instagram and whatsapp for iPad?), while competitors (these days tiktok, before Snap) are merely imitated years later. Actually kind of sad to see considering I'm a big fan of Social and 'Meta' has been on the forefront for years. I hope they find a way to rethink this.

Each team chases its own metric, even if it obviously hurts other teams, shareholders and the cattle (sorry, the users).

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Post by momojo »

site-packages1 wrote: post #137

I stopped using this years ago, except I still have an account and minorly check once a week or month depending on my mood. I'll give the same refrain I expect from most: how do I keep up with goings-on of long-lost friends, family members with whom I don't want to directly interact but want to know what they're "up to" and to know about major life events? Maybe the answer is that I should delete facebook and go back…

You ask some good questions. I wonder sometimes; if Facebook disappeared tomorrow, how badly would my life be affected? And it's strange to me that the disappearance of a platform which seems to pervade my daily life would only cause minor inconvenience.

I'll admit that Messenger has greater sway over my daily life, but I could probably switch over to an alternate messaging platform with minimal pain.

> Maybe the answer is that I should delete facebook and go back to beforetimes when the world was smaller

It's absurd how highly we've come to value a platform that brings only an incremental amount of joy to our lives (and who knows how much grief). I would be lying if I said I don't enjoy seeing what my old friends are up to, or knowing who's had kids, etc. But well, maybe I'll have to call them up for coffee and a chat instead.

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Post by scifibestfi »

paulcole wrote: post #10
SrslyJosh wrote: post #6

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

McDonald’s does remove menu items that a vocal minority of customers happen to enjoy. They freak out, everybody else shrugs, and the world moves on. Also TikTok is dope and I only go to Facebook to see ads for clothes and other stuff I might want to buy.

> I only go to Facebook to see ads for clothes and other stuff I might want to buy.

That's interesting. It never occurred to me that people would use Facebook that way.

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Post by threeseed »

ARandomerDude wrote: post #266
threeseed wrote: post #97

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> Facebook is dying because they stopped being Facebook a) No evidence they are dying. All we have is a single quarter's result i.e. statistically meaningless. b) No evidence that staying true to the original Facebook is the best strategy. Unquestionably, Stories has been a popular feature in both Instagram and Facebook ecosystems and perhaps certain features from TikTok will be the same. But there is plenty of evide…

> No evidence they are dying. All we have is a single quarter's result i.e. statistically meaningless. But their first down quarter (for users) does say something . No one would be talking about this if it hadn't happened.

It's a quarter where we are seeing an inflation explosion, COVID and international uncertainty which is causing recessionary behaviour. Companies across the IT sector are cutting jobs and revising forecasts either because of actual or expected drop in revenue.

Can't think anyone serious would look to derive any meaning from a single data point in this environment.

For all we know the entire DAU drop could be from Ukraine and Russia alone.

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Post by drdaeman »

SrslyJosh wrote: post #6

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

I don't think they hate them, they - I believe that despite hoarding all this supposedly useful data - simply have absolutely no idea who they are and what they want/need.

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Post by pjmlp »

encryptluks2 wrote: post #280
dreamcompiler wrote: post #264

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> Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Facebook cares a great deal about its users--advertisers. You and I aren't Facebook's users; we are the ore Facebook has been mining at a cost approaching zero for over a decade and selling at a huge markup to its actual customers. But now the mine is playing out. We no longer cost Facebook zero to mine and the advertisers are beginning to realize t…

I doubt it. Facebook may have issues but they aren't going to disappear anytime soon.

Some of us are old enough to have been through Hi5 and MySpace....
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