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Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

Restaurants do sometimes change their menus, you know

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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I feel like half the comments here about "facebook dying" and how "facebook can't compete with tiktok" are missing the big picture about facebook. For a lot of people, facebook basically is the internet. The same way AOL was a long time ago. Everyone they want to talk to as they go about their day is there. Basically every business in the US that bothers with an online presence at all either has a facebook page or ex…

Maybe I am weird, but I never see the Facebook page of companies. It's always Instagram for non-tech/normal companies and groups and Twitter for more "online" or techy companies.

For looking up a business it's always Google/Website, Yelp, and Instagram for me.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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They'd also switch how one orders food every 18 months, and have them migrate to the new way of ordering food. Food ordering in gmail, food ordering as an app, food ordering using a kiosk, then back to an app, then merge it into the wallet app because why not.

And the food is delivered using an old-school automat format where you can see people on the other side but never talk to them if anything is wrong.

They'd start giving out a free family meal, which is a medium combo version of their corporate banquet pack, and they'll promise it's free forever.

Then after 15 years, they'll, give you three months to upgrade, then five months, then after three months of pushback, they'll begrudgingly let you keep having the free family meal, so long as you promise you're not using it to cater for a business event.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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It'd be more like if McDonald's used the same ingredients and stuffed them into taco and burrito shapes and lazily renamed themselves to something like mcdonaria, had their employees say hola when you walk in and their receipts say gracias... The issue is Facebook misunderstand both their customers and their competition so they're just blindly smashing things together I blame modern tech hiring processes that filter…

> their customers Just so we're clear, the users are NOT the customers. I think Facebook absolutely understands their customers -- the companies that spend the most advertising and marketing through Facebook.

All of the paying customers have Facebook accounts and most personally use them.

If it's a bad experience and "boosting" posts leads to noise and garbage they're going away.

The tiering of customers and users is incorrect, Facebook is the meeting place for the two sides of the attention market and they are increasingly doing a failed execution.

The clean delineated hierarchy model where the users are treated as foolish rubes is part of the problem. There's an insular Silicon Valley elitism that is excessively self-congratulatory and is positively allergic to systemic criticism

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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It’s crazy to think the social media era may finally be ending. There’s really no viable platform anymore where you can just go passively keep up with what friends and acquaintances are doing. Everything is about feeding you content you didn’t ask for but may be targeted enough to catch your attention. And for what? To show you some ads here and there? To collect data that can be used to… sell more ads and products?…

Maybe what someone should do is build a Social Network as a Service.

SNaaS.

Letting anyone run their own, and turning whatever features they want on or off.

You as the service provider take a cut of advertising revenue, or subscription fees, etc.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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I've enjoyed the analogy so adding onto it: Google would open up 5 competing, different burger places next to each other and then close them all down a year later, confused that none of them did well enough. All to open a new Taco stand on the other side of town and claim it's got the same great food you liked before (it doesn't).

Apple would sell exactly one kind of burger, which is great but costs $20. The wrapper is rose gold or space grey. Only Apple-certified condiments can be applied to the burgers, and a packet of ketchup is $5. Each year the faithful queue outside for the privilege of obtaining the latest burger.

The silver lining is if you pay for it it pretty much will always taste decent.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Sounds awful, but it could be worse. At least the Facebook-managed McDonald's is trying to chase after what most people seem to want. A Google-managed McDonald's would just shut down, even though everyone loves McDonald's, because somebody at Google figured starting a new fast food chain is the best path to a promotion.

I've enjoyed the analogy so adding onto it: Google would open up 5 competing, different burger places next to each other and then close them all down a year later, confused that none of them did well enough. All to open a new Taco stand on the other side of town and claim it's got the same great food you liked before (it doesn't).

The five wouldn't compete, one would sell buns, another patties and lettuce, one would have a door so confusing that nobody knows what it actually sold inside, another would sell burgers but advertise itself as something completely unrelated, and the final one would be an acquisition that immediately shut down for a complete rebuild while its staff are fired or reassigned to the other stores.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

#239

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

All of those restaurants sell poisonous trash.

Which makes this a good analogy for social media. We should all be happy they may finally be peaking and fading.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Sounds awful, but it could be worse. At least the Facebook-managed McDonald's is trying to chase after what most people seem to want. A Google-managed McDonald's would just shut down, even though everyone loves McDonald's, because somebody at Google figured starting a new fast food chain is the best path to a promotion.

I've enjoyed the analogy so adding onto it: Google would open up 5 competing, different burger places next to each other and then close them all down a year later, confused that none of them did well enough. All to open a new Taco stand on the other side of town and claim it's got the same great food you liked before (it doesn't).

"Hey, As some of you know, we've been working hard on a complete redesign of BurGer, and we are happy to announce that it's ready! The new GerBug is square, with cheese and bun swapped places. All is this to give our customers a new great experience. Truly yours, the GerBur team."
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