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Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by ekianjo »

guelo wrote: post #123
safety1st wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To quote the article Facebook really has "unleashed waves of democratic empowerment" among the youth in certain countries where democracy is not present or is under serious assault and the domestic media is censored. If some random dictatorship has strict anti-speech laws Meta is way more lax about following them than the domestic media (who are just going to get arrested if they don't). This really has created a gen…

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How do people without guns inside a government building control anything exactly?

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by mulmen »

guelo wrote: post #123
safety1st wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To quote the article Facebook really has "unleashed waves of democratic empowerment" among the youth in certain countries where democracy is not present or is under serious assault and the domestic media is censored. If some random dictatorship has strict anti-speech laws Meta is way more lax about following them than the domestic media (who are just going to get arrested if they don't). This really has created a gen…

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We do know. Joe Biden would still be president. The question is what would have happened if that mob actually got their hands on the representatives. We have a pretty good idea there too, and it isn't pretty.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by edmundsauto »

quartesixte wrote: post #17
SrslyJosh wrote: post #6

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

This isn’t “Taco Bell outsold McDonald’s for six months so all of a sudden McD’s sells McTacos.” This is, “McDonald’s realizes about two years too late that no one wants to eat burgers anymore so in a last-ditch attempt they add tacos to the menu.”

I believe the real world analogy would be that McDonalds started using real beef and chicken in their food, expanded out the breakfast menu hours. Which they did, deciding whether it strengthened their future prospects is an exercise best left up to each individual.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by caseyross »

xwdv wrote: post #74

It’s crazy to think the social media era may finally be ending. There’s really no viable platform anymore where you can just go passively keep up with what friends and acquaintances are doing. Everything is about feeding you content you didn’t ask for but may be targeted enough to catch your attention. And for what? To show you some ads here and there? To collect data that can be used to… sell more ads and products?…

It really is weird, isn't it? To have what was essentially a solved problem 10 years ago become... what you described.

On Facebook/Instagram/Twitter/LinkedIn, I still have tons of people I'd be interesting in passively keeping up with. Maybe even actively, sometimes. But all that latent sociality is increasingly just dead out of the gate, seeing as I no longer use any of those platforms regularly.

My closest friends, the ones I will actually put in effort to talk to? Group chat. The polar opposite of the public social media ecosystem that we used to have. A closed, private space that admits no outsiders, marketers, or clout chasers, but strongly discourages developing relationships with new people or expanding one's horizons.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

ZephyrBlu wrote: post #81
groffee wrote: post #35

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Facebook is dying, but not because of TikTok. Facebook is dying because they stopped being Facebook. If they gave what's left of their userbase what they actually wanted (chronological feed, seeing friends posts, not seeing spam, more ways to interact (bring back pets, gifts, superpokes etc)) they'd do ok. It doesn't help that their core code is a steaming pile of bloated dung that doesn't seem to be tested by anyone…

Attention is zero-sum. If TikTok is winning, someone else is losing. TikTok now is what Facebook was 10 years ago.

Facebook is where my older relatives social network. As soon as it became a place where people over 40 went, it lost its appeal to the young people that Facebook is really after.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by aquova »

I'll admit that I deleted my Facebook account years ago, and thus haven't seen what this redesign looks like, but this sounds like a baffling move. Facebook has been less and less popular with the younger crowd; and is now mainly associated as a place for older generations, who like use it primarily as a way to keep track of friends and family and secondarily as a way to see the news. I can't see the "Tiktok-ification" of their platform as being successful at all. My grandmother wants to see pictures of their neighbor's holidays, not scroll through the antics of kids she doesn't know. Again, the article doesn't give any screenshots, but expanding the feed pool to encompass the whole world is the exact opposite of why people are still sticking around.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by yieldcrv »

owlninja wrote: post #136
grog454 wrote: post #113

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> People were on facebook for the features facebook had. People were on Facebook for the people that were on Facebook.

Anecdotally I quit Facebook in 2016 but of my friends and family that still use it, I would say most simply use it for marketplace. They may still view the updates that people still post to see what's going on but it doesn't seem to be near as about keeping in touch (I'm in the US).

Marketplace and the groups for goods or meeting up are full scammers and time wasters

People are under the illusion of some fleeting chance of working as advertised

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by edmundsauto »

robswc wrote: post #127
SamuelAdams wrote: post #90

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> Ask a tik tok user to tell you even 10% of the videos they saw within the last hour. I'd be surprised if they could. Heck you could ask the same for any HN user as well :) Yes this is social media. Yes some of it is mindless time wasting. For me personally I sometimes get useful information that helps improve my work / profession. At least that’s how I justify it.

Haha, true! Tbh tho I usually only click on a few of the posts on here, the one's that interest me. The signal to noise ratio just seems awful on tiktok, marginally better on reddit and HN. There you can scan the page and see what interests you. On these new "endless scroll" types you have to at least invest a few seconds time into each video. Say you skip ~10 videos, that's ~10 seconds to just find a 10 second video…

Other humans often perceive updates on their friends, family, and connected entities as much more valuable than the discussion we are having. The most important rule for HN is that this forum and the people on it are not representative of the general population.

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Post by [deleted] »

SrslyJosh wrote: post #6

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

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