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Funny enough, it was test driving a Tesla that got me interested in getting an EV as my next vehicle. And like many, Musk's behavior has dissuaded me from purchasing one, and instead likely a Ford.
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I'll spare the moral judgements against Tesla for this: The real moral of the story here is that if your business plan and practices is creating occasional weird issues and huge cognitive dissonance in your customers, it's the wrong business plan. Also... the number of people this applies to is likely so low that Tesla really screwed up by not erring on the side of the customer. (They didn't buy from Tesla, but they'…
Its incredibly profitable for the ruling class. Too bad you aren't in it.
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It's not just the ETAs that are pushing me away, but just the entire dealership process generally is annoying. I wanted to order a vehicle from GM and I have tried close at least 10 dealerships at this point in the PNW. No one is straight up on the process of either getting an order in or what pricing will look like or when they might get an allocation. Some just say "sure, you're on the list" but who knows what that…
I think this is why Ford has said it’s going to do electric vehicles direct. I can’t remember if they’ll use a different brand or not. In Utah, where I am, it’s going to be a bit of a hill. I hear we have some laws to protect the local dealerships. Tesla dealers are just showrooms here and I don’t think they sell anything on-site. Could be wrong about all this.
Its a really scary kind of resonance at their scale. Most companies who sell goods like these recognize that the aftermarket value of their product is a feature of new products; its a factor in the buying matrix. Apple is a great example; tons of people know and factor into the decision to buy their products that they hold value better than the competition; so a higher upfront cost can be worth it. But if Tesla is scraping by and looking to move more and more of their functionality into cloud-connected-feature-flags & subscriptions, they're going to get eaten alive by competition who can just say "our car is the same price but that's built in".
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> The previous owner shouldn't have sold it as a 90 or at least disclosed that, "It's a 60 but Tesla swapped out the batter with a 90 and left it configured as a 90" I'm not as sure about this take. Imagine if this were something not connected to The Cloud; the seller sells the car they have, its not their responsibility, nor should it be, nor has it ever been, to know that this is a component that's Cloud Connected…
Isn't it a bit akin to disclosing hidden defects for a house? If you have known about those defects, or they were properly disclosed to you when you bought the house, in many jurisdictions you're responsible to disclose them to the next buyer, are you not? I'm not on Tesla's side here: I have an expectation of reasonability that they're not meeting, and I feel that they've forfeited their "rights" to locking this con…
I'll spare the moral judgements against Tesla for this: The real moral of the story here is that if your business plan and practices is creating occasional weird issues and huge cognitive dissonance in your customers, it's the wrong business plan. Also... the number of people this applies to is likely so low that Tesla really screwed up by not erring on the side of the customer. (They didn't buy from Tesla, but they'…
As one who bought TSLA when it was in the low double digits, I thought for sure that we'd one day own a Tesla (we sure made enough off TSLA to justify one). But this situation is but one of many little duck bites that have now put us off the brand. Sure, a duck doesn't bite all that hard, but enough of those little nibbles can cause some harm. And so "pedo guy", "taking TSLA private", "no, FSD does not transfer to th…
I'm on my second Leaf. Was eyeing an EV 6 but that's an unnecessary expense.
Please be kind to those that suffer from Attention Surplus Disorder. (ASD)
It's not clear of the 3rd owner purchased an S90 or knowingly purchased an S60 that had been "faked" to be an S90. Tesla made a mistake, which benefited 1,2 or even all 3 owners. They then fixed the mistake. I wonder if there are some regulations that prohibit the type of upgrade Tesla did on accident, and the $4,500 fee goes to cover the regulatory requirements necessary to upgrade a vehicle. Otherwise, yes it's kin…
> I wonder if there are some regulations that prohibit the type of upgrade Tesla did on accident, and the $4,500 fee goes to cover the regulatory requirements necessary to upgrade a vehicle. There aren't. > If you're at a restaurant and you get the final bill and you notice an item wasn't paid for. Do you speak up, or do you leave knowing you ate food you didn't pay for? If a server at a restaurant says "hey, we're o…
In this case, the restaurant offered, which is not a mistake, and IANAL, but arguably "hey, we're out of the strip cut, would you like a filet mignon instead at the same price?" sounds close to a verbal contract.