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Don’t Blame Dostoyevsky

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Re: Don’t Blame Dostoyevsky

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Living in Eastern Europe, I have to say that I've always felt that there was something brutal and thuggish about both Russian and Ukrainian culture (they are more similar than Ukrainians want to admit). The article merely hints at this while talking of the "illiterate peasants" that create the foundational popular culture.

The Russian people's spectrum is incredibly wide though, and have also produced some of the deepest writers, musicians and filmmakers humanity has seen.

Admitting both of these truths at the same time is something people have a hard time doing, and that's the real issue here.

Re: Don’t Blame Dostoyevsky

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Those who terrorize Russian diaspora for the actions of their government have rocks for brains.

It has seeped into even major UK broadsheets like the Telegraph. They printed a sympathetic article on how uncomfortable it was for a steward to award a Russian tennis player the winning prize. Baffling. Usually these sentiments are decried in the strongest terms.

Re: Don’t Blame Dostoyevsky

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A Ukrainian here - couldn't disagree more with the author. Take a beloved in the West author like Solzhenitsyn, whose "compassion" suddenly evaporates when Ukrainian question is raised. Even a modern sci-fi author Sergei Lukyanenko does not shy away from racial jokes against Ukrainians or Lithuanians in his Dozor books.

Ukraine is a pawn at the world stage, but if the West is serious about battling russia (for its own sake really), cultural front has to be among top priorities.

Re: Don’t Blame Dostoyevsky

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post #11

Living in Eastern Europe, I have to say that I've always felt that there was something brutal and thuggish about both Russian and Ukrainian culture (they are more similar than Ukrainians want to admit). The article merely hints at this while talking of the "illiterate peasants" that create the foundational popular culture. The Russian people's spectrum is incredibly wide though, and have also produced some of the dee…

The greater the suffering of a people, the deeper the art they produce.

(This is not a justification for violence of course.)

Russia has been a nation of serfs for millennia now.

Re: Don’t Blame Dostoyevsky

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I wonder who Shishkin is writing this for, and why he bothers.

Readers interested in Dostoyevsky, Tolstoy, or Chekhov are presumably intellectuals. Presumably, they will be familiar with the countless examples from history when, driven by patriotic fervor, countries cleansed themselves from the culture of an adversarial state, including language, literature, music, linguistic borrowings, scientific contributions, common history, etc. etc. Presumably, these potential readers should be sophisticated enough to separate the crude politics of the day from the valuable contributions to the history of art or science.

Is he _really_ interested in the audience whose interest in the 19-th century Russian literature is predicated on the Russian politics of the 21st century? Why does he want to reach this audience? And, more generally, in the environment that is arrogantly dismissive to "old white men" in general, why worry about the readership of Dostoyevsky at all?

Re: Don’t Blame Dostoyevsky

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Well, I can live with not blaming Dostoyevsky. But when I read Pushkin's "To the Slanderers of Russia", or Brodsky's "On the Independence of Ukraine", I can't help noticing the same mindset of entitlement that perpetuates and fuels the present war.

It beats me how Brodsky, the same person who penned "Bosnia Tune", could have succumbed to that thinking.

Re: Don’t Blame Dostoyevsky

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He is right and wrong.

This part is most definitely true: "The Russian system of political power has remained unchanged and unchanging down the centuries—a pyramid of slaves worshipping the supreme khan. That’s how it was during the Golden Horde, that’s how it was in Stalin’s time, that’s how it is today under Vladimir Putin."

This is why 90s and russian democracy failed so utterly, why it will fail completely in the future. There is no nice way out. People love the tsar that wins, it does not matter if he murders, tortures, rapes. He is tsar and above it all, boyars might be held responsible.. but tsar has one measure, winning. Narod will love him as long as he is strong.

"Slaves give birth to a dictatorship and a dictatorship gives birth to slaves. There is only one way out of this vicious circle, and that is through culture."

This is a delusion, there is only one way out and that is the fall of the empire. As Golden Horde died so must its successor state. Culture has not saved Russia in the last 2 centuries, it won't save it now.

Re: Don’t Blame Dostoyevsky

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A Ukrainian here - couldn't disagree more with the author. Take a beloved in the West author like Solzhenitsyn, whose "compassion" suddenly evaporates when Ukrainian question is raised. Even a modern sci-fi author Sergei Lukyanenko does not shy away from racial jokes against Ukrainians or Lithuanians in his Dozor books. Ukraine is a pawn at the world stage, but if the West is serious about battling russia (for its ow…

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