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Re: The Dangers of Microsoft Pluton

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I would like a free as in freedom Libre Linux PC with open non bloated boot loader. Open hardware and open specs.

What I do not want in my next PC is more DRM and adtech spying on us.

Re: The Dangers of Microsoft Pluton

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I'm completely missing how his example of a Word document that can only be opened by approved users on approved hardware within the corporation is supposed to be a bad thing. Honestly, that sounds pretty fantastic. I've been using 3rd party tools/extensions to do this sort of thing in corporate and government environments for years, but having the attestation go all the way down to the hardware level is a big value-a…

Remember when Snowden and Manning leaked huge troves of secret information about the crimes of the State? Remember when a bunch of journos got their hands on the so-called "Panama papers"?

Basically, this will make transparency even harder than it already is. That's a terrible danger for democracy at large. Stalin's wet dream.

Re: The Dangers of Microsoft Pluton

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Regardless, I think that the pc platform deserves a good anti cheat solution. Separating the groups of those who have a good anti cheat system enabled (such as this) and those who don’t is a good compromise for everybody. I think more reasonable companies such as Valve will go that way.

Good anti-cheat solution is server side AI. Anything client side is malware.

Louder for the Cheeto-dust-covered people in the back.

Re: The Dangers of Microsoft Pluton

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Ron DeSantis doesn't need hardware-level DRM to ban math books. https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2022/05/06/florida-ba... If you're worried about book bannings in states like Florida, DeSantis is up for reelection in just over 3 months . Go volunteer or donate money to his opponent (probably Charlie Crist).

Mein Kampf is a banned book which I don't think many would disagree with. There are many other such books filled with propaganda that are rightly banned. I don't see why other propaganda-filled books that are being pushed on unsuspecting children shouldn't be banned too, unless the only reason is that you dislike the direction of the propaganda.

> Mein Kampf is a banned book

Not everywhere in the world (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mein_Kampf#Current_availabilit...)

In the USA, freedom of speech is in very high regard, and that’s in conflict with the idea of banning any publication.

Re: The Dangers of Microsoft Pluton

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What you can install on YOUR pc will be at the sole mercy of microsoft/or maybe someone else.... That's the cusp of it. Not that it can be used for good, but that it sets the way for heavy misuse by large corporations. Wait a few years. Smaller companies won't even be allowed to order high end cpu's. You'll be at 100% mercy of these corporations. If after 2 years they decide to brick your pc, they'll just do it. You…

still waiting on the secure boot lockdown everyone has insisted is coming for the better part of two decades...

You mean like this ?

https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/11/lenovo_secured_core/

Re: The Dangers of Microsoft Pluton

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Ew. Why are all the chip manufacturers going along with this stupid plan? I want to buy a processor and then own it and have it work in my best interests, not consume electricity and generatie heat enforcing draconian 3rd party DRM policies.

Because China and Russia might be hacking your hardware.

Don't people listen when a guy like Pompeo speaks he has pretty much outlined the plan with his Clean Network Initiative, I wouldn't be surprised that within a decade CloudFlare and other US cloud services will be used as the great firewall of the western sphere.

Re: The Dangers of Microsoft Pluton

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ron DeSantis doesn't need hardware-level DRM to ban math books. https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2022/05/06/florida-ba... If you're worried about book bannings in states like Florida, DeSantis is up for reelection in just over 3 months . Go volunteer or donate money to his opponent (probably Charlie Crist).

Technologists often have such tunnel vision that limits their concerns to tyranny driven by technology when there's plenty of low tech attacks on open society all the time. It reminds me of the good old "my password takes 2 billion years to crack, but my kneecaps only take a few seconds" metaphor about people in tech forgetting that physical coercion is, in fact, a possible attack vector for your IT security.

This is not an Xor proposition.

It's like saying "don't worry about gun control because car accidents kill way more people right now".

Re: The Dangers of Microsoft Pluton

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I'm completely missing how his example of a Word document that can only be opened by approved users on approved hardware within the corporation is supposed to be a bad thing. Honestly, that sounds pretty fantastic. I've been using 3rd party tools/extensions to do this sort of thing in corporate and government environments for years, but having the attestation go all the way down to the hardware level is a big value-a…

The way I see it: Whatever happens, the system will get abused, and so, I weigh the potential abuses along with the potential benefits. With remote attestation, you put a lot of control in the hands whoever controls the "remote", making the situation very asymmetrical, and so, ripe for centralized abuse. For example, with centralized trust systems, a leak of the signing keys are devastating for the system. For an example, see the DVD key leak:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AACS_encryption_key_controvers...

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